I agree with that. The Be my A I is just telling us what we'd see, if we could - hairy arm; stern expression. I would want it to tell me what it sees.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 4:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Be My AI and what it may teach us? What is wrong with the truth? ----- Original Message ----- From: Cristóbal Muñoz <mailto:cristobalm...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 2:09 PM Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? This topic reminds me of these two articles. Blind Olympic athletes show the universal nature of pride and shame <https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/blind-olympic-athletes-show-the-universal-nature-of-pride-and-shame> The role of visual experience in the production of emotional facial expressions by blind people: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5902524/> Sometimes, BeMyEyes descriptions aren’t appreciated. The other day, I used it to snap a photo of a bag of green coffee beans that I wanted to roast. I held the bag of beans in my left hand and snapped the picture with my iPhone in my right hand. BeMyEyes came back with a description of the type of bean, region where they were grown, altitude and a whole bunch of other info I wouldn’t gotten if I tried using SeeingAI. Cool cool… At the end of the very detailed description, BeMyEyes also wrote that the bag was being held by someone with a harry arm. WTH! What’s up with the editorializing? Cristóbal -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 12:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Be My AI and what it may teach us? What did your friend say about your expression? I assume it described you as "serious" because you weren't smiling. -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Malcolm Parfitt Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2023 4:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Be My AI and what it may teach us? Hello friends. I appreciate that none of you know me personally and like me have no idea what I look like. However, at my request a friend of mine took a picture of me recently when we were in what we call in the UK a pub. I was very interested in the results I obtained when asking Be My AI to describe the photo. It’s description was: The man in the picture has a fair complexion and a sturdy build. His hair is short and appears to be a mix of gray and black, and he has a full head of hair. His eyes are partially closed, and he has a somewhat stern or serious expression on his face. His nose is prominent and he has full lips. He is clean-shaven. He is wearing a dark-colored polo shirt with a collar. The shirt has a small embroidery on the right side of his chest that reads "Samuel Smith" in a cursive font with gold thread. The shirt appears to be of a comfortable fit. The lighting in the picture is focused on him, making him the central element of the image. There is no additional information provided about the man, such as his name or what he is doing in the pub. What interested me most is that this is the closest we can get to a sighted person looking in a mirror. The other thing that struck me was the description of my expression. I had never really thought about expressions but I suddenly thought are expressions learned or natural. How far do our expressions mirror those of sighted people. I didn’t feel serious at the time, and if Be My AI’s description of my expression was accurate then why would I look serious? 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