I second this
Great program 

> On Jan 28, 2024, at 9:32 AM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> To transfer music and ringtones to my iPhone, I use a program called
> Waltr Pro, which has an annual subscription fee of $35.  Nicely
> accessible, more so than iTunes, and none of the headaches and
> hassles.  For making ringtones, I slice an MP3 file down with MP3
> Direct Cut, which also has fade in and fade out functionality.  I then
> use an online file converter to turn it into an M4R file.  I like
> heavy metal music and have turned a number of classic heavy metal
> songs into ringtones.  When my phone rings, a heavy guitar rift plays
> from Metallica, Judas Priest, the Scorpions, guns and Roses, and many
> others. I am told my ring tones turn heads. They are great
> conversation starters.
> 
> In highly professional environments, I have the Grateful Dead, Miles
> Davis, count Basie bill Evans, and Maynard Ferguson.
> 
> 
> I have found that custom ringtones are backed up to iCloud so when my
> phone is restored, the ringtones come back before I need to transfer
> them from my PC.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/26/24, Joshua Hendrickson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As long as I can still share files and get them on to my iPhone, I'll
>> continue to use iTunes.  If there were another way to share files and
>> get them on to my phone, I'd use it.  Glad you can make ringtones from
>> songs.  That is very nice.
>> 
>> On 1/26/24, Malcolm Parfitt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> While I find Apple Music to be a wonderful service I’ve been a user since
>>> 2015 it does have its drawbacks.  Fortunately data is not too expensive
>>> here
>>> in the UK so whether streaming via WiFi or mobile data it’s not too bad.
>>> However, unless you regularly explore new music you run the risk of
>>> paying
>>> for albums over and over again.  Then there is the issue when or if you
>>> discontinue your subscription you lose access to all your music whereas
>>> buying physical media or downloaded content you will still have access to
>>> your library.
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>> 
>>>> On 26 Jan 2024, at 14:54, Richard Turner <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect Sieghard is right on here.
>>>> However, the timing is rather vague.  I found tons of articles from
>>>> January of 2023 talking about this, but no articles in a year.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't want to risk messing up what is working currently by downloading
>>>> any of the previews, but I won't be surprised if the switch happens with
>>>> very little notice or fanfair.
>>>> 
>>>> So, be ready with good backups...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA
>>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God
>>>> stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell
>>>> to get it.”
>>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
>>>> 
>>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
>>>> JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
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>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 12:18 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: RE: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage
>>>> Band apps
>>>> 
>>>> Then enjoy it while it lasts which most likely won't be too much longer
>>>> now that the Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices apps are on the
>>>> Microsoft Store.
>>>> There are plenty of articles which confirm that it is likely Apple will
>>>> replace iTunes with these apps, maybe this year, maybe next, but once
>>>> Apple released these separate apps for the Mac, iTunes for the Mac went
>>>> away pretty quick. Of course at this point you can't do Books or
>>>> Podcasts
>>>> with any of these 3 apps so most likely such apps will be coming for
>>>> Windows first before iTunes goes away.
>>>> There is of course also the fact that you and others who transfer huge
>>>> amounts of media whether MP3, M4A or Daisy format are a very small
>>>> minority considering how easy it is to access this stuff via the web and
>>>> as I read in one article, Apple used to make a huge amount of money from
>>>> the sale of downloadable music on iTunes, but now service revenue which
>>>> means streaming revenue and revenue from services such as iCloud, News
>>>> etc. is hugely bigger than what people still spend on actually buying
>>>> music. I am very much part of that demographic, I used to spend hours in
>>>> music stores back in Germany in the mid and late 80's listening to vinyl
>>>> and later CD's and buying them, still very much so here in Canada
>>>> throughout the 90's, but already starting in the early 2000's I started
>>>> downloading music and of course now I have my Apple Music subscription
>>>> which gives me access to just about any music ever made unless it is of
>>>> course some small, locally produced artist. For more or less half of
>>>> what
>>>> a CD cost 30 years ago I can pay my monthly Apple Music subscription and
>>>> listen to anything I want wherever I am.
>>>> 
>>>> In any case, the point o fthis post was more about how with this free
>>>> app
>>>> it is very easy to make ringtones from songs and add them to your
>>>> ringtones library right on the iPhone without ever touching any other
>>>> device and I find this quite cool and it is certainly something I will
>>>> do
>>>> from now on. Many years ago I wrote a tutorial on how to make ringtones
>>>> in
>>>> iTunes and boy was it complicated compared to using this Ringtone Maker
>>>> app and Garage Band.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 5:16 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage
>>>> Band apps
>>>> 
>>>> I'll stick with iTunes.  I use it all the time to get audio books and
>>>> audio dramas on to my iPhone.  I use the file sharing option in iTunes.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, forgot to include the link for the app, here it is:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ringtones Maker - the ring
>>>>> app<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ringtones-maker-the-ring-app/id13581
>>>>> 07315> The app is free to use, there is a “Remove Ads” button and for
>>>>> $2.99 US or
>>>>> $3.99 Canadian you can support the developer and get rid of ads.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
>>>>> Sieghard Weitzel
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:11 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage
>>>>> Band apps
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I haven’t used iTunes for a long time and on my laptop I have been
>>>>> playing around a little with the new Windows app which eventually will
>>>>> replace iTunes, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices. Basically the
>>>>> functionality of iTunes which allows you to manage and listen to the
>>>>> various media types as well as provide a device section where you
>>>>> could update/restore your iPhone or add ringtones to be synced to your
>>>>> connected iPhone is now divided up among these apps similar to how it
>>>>> is
>>>>> on a Mac.
>>>>> Unfortunately at this stage the Apple Devices app which is accessible
>>>>> for things like updating/restoring your phone, making encrypted
>>>>> backups, turn Voiceover on/off etc. does not include an option to sync
>>>>> ringtones to your device. Maybe it does not yet include this feature
>>>>> as the app is still in Beta testing phase, but either way since I did
>>>>> a complete reset of my iPhonelast night I was looking for a way to at
>>>>> least get some of my favourite songs back as ringtones.
>>>>> After listening to a YouTube video, I downloaded the app the guy was
>>>>> using and found that it is a pretty simple app and it is accessible. I
>>>>> am including a link later. Basically when I opened the app I was able
>>>>> to import a song from my computer into the app which is achieved by
>>>>> entering an IP address into a browser, this takes you to a simple
>>>>> website where you can browse to your song and import it. This worked
>>>>> well and the song was then in the app.
>>>>> Here I was able to clip the song so it’s only 30 seconds long and
>>>>> setting start time and end time as well as enabling a fade in and fade
>>>>> out effect was easy to do. Then I tapped the “Make” button which
>>>>> created the ringtone with the correct M4R extension.
>>>>> After that I I found a “Share” option under “More” and I was able to
>>>>> select Garage Band which I also installed on my iPhone before, for
>>>>> those who don’t know it, this app is a free app from Apple which
>>>>> allows you to create and work with all sorts of audio. After I shared
>>>>> it, I opened Garage Band, tapped on “My songs” and my ringtone was
>>>>> there.
>>>>> Flicking down on the song gave me a bunch of options and again one of
>>>>> them was “Share”. After tapping it, I had several options including
>>>>> “Ringtone”.
>>>>> When I tapped it I was told the length of the song had to be adjusted,
>>>>> It said “Your ringtone needs to be 30 seconds or less and will be
>>>>> automatically shortened to the appropriate length”.
>>>>> I tapped continue and then had only two options, “Cancel” and
>>>>> “Export”. I tapped on export and then when I went to Settings > Sounds
>>>>> and Haptics > Ringtones it was right there and I was able to select it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This method is not as easy and quick as copying a bunch of already
>>>>> existing ringtones and simply pasting them into the appropriate
>>>>> section in iTunes, but it is not very difficult and one can certainly
>>>>> make some ringtones based on songs this way.
>>>>> There is also an option where you can select a video from yoru photo
>>>>> library on the iPhone if you have one which includes audio. The audio
>>>>> is then extracted and you can make a ringtone from this.
>>>>> Lastly, you do of course have options in Garage Band to create your
>>>>> own music or record yourself if you are a musician, but that is one
>>>>> thing I am not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I will once again leave feedback for Apple in the next little while
>>>>> asking them to hopefully add the ability to sync ringtones via the
>>>>> Apple Devices app or even better would be if they allows for some
>>>>> other way to simply import them from a place like Dropbox or other
>>>>> cloud storage service. You can do just about anything nowadays from
>>>>> the iPhone and I am sure iTunes will probably be a thing of the past
>>>>> sooner rather than later and this is one area where Apple should give
>>>>> customers an option to do this just using a phone.
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