Yes you do and they state that it does not work with the version of iTunes available from the Microsoft store. Malcolm Parfitt
> On 29 Jan 2024, at 01:51, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > But in order to use Waltr2 you still need to have iTunes installed on the > computer, don't you? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Kliph > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2024 9:50 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and Garage Band > apps > > I second this > Great program > >> On Jan 28, 2024, at 9:32 AM, Kelly Pierce <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> To transfer music and ringtones to my iPhone, I use a program called >> Waltr Pro, which has an annual subscription fee of $35. Nicely >> accessible, more so than iTunes, and none of the headaches and >> hassles. For making ringtones, I slice an MP3 file down with MP3 >> Direct Cut, which also has fade in and fade out functionality. I then >> use an online file converter to turn it into an M4R file. I like >> heavy metal music and have turned a number of classic heavy metal >> songs into ringtones. When my phone rings, a heavy guitar rift plays >> from Metallica, Judas Priest, the Scorpions, guns and Roses, and many >> others. I am told my ring tones turn heads. They are great >> conversation starters. >> >> In highly professional environments, I have the Grateful Dead, Miles >> Davis, count Basie bill Evans, and Maynard Ferguson. >> >> >> I have found that custom ringtones are backed up to iCloud so when my >> phone is restored, the ringtones come back before I need to transfer >> them from my PC. >> >> Kelly >> >> >> >> >>> On 1/26/24, Joshua Hendrickson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> As long as I can still share files and get them on to my iPhone, I'll >>> continue to use iTunes. If there were another way to share files and >>> get them on to my phone, I'd use it. Glad you can make ringtones >>> from songs. That is very nice. >>> >>> On 1/26/24, Malcolm Parfitt <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> While I find Apple Music to be a wonderful service I’ve been a user >>>> since >>>> 2015 it does have its drawbacks. Fortunately data is not too >>>> expensive here in the UK so whether streaming via WiFi or mobile >>>> data it’s not too bad. >>>> However, unless you regularly explore new music you run the risk of >>>> paying for albums over and over again. Then there is the issue when >>>> or if you discontinue your subscription you lose access to all your >>>> music whereas buying physical media or downloaded content you will >>>> still have access to your library. >>>> Malcolm Parfitt >>>> >>>>> On 26 Jan 2024, at 14:54, Richard Turner >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I suspect Sieghard is right on here. >>>>> However, the timing is rather vague. I found tons of articles from >>>>> January of 2023 talking about this, but no articles in a year. >>>>> >>>>> I don't want to risk messing up what is working currently by >>>>> downloading any of the previews, but I won't be surprised if the >>>>> switch happens with very little notice or fanfair. >>>>> >>>>> So, be ready with good backups... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Richard, USA >>>>> “Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. >>>>> God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go >>>>> through Hell to get it.” >>>>> -- Cedrick Bridgeforth >>>>> >>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ >>>>> >>>>> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS >>>>> version 2024.2310.70.400 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2024 12:18 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: RE: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and >>>>> Garage Band apps >>>>> >>>>> Then enjoy it while it lasts which most likely won't be too much >>>>> longer now that the Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices apps >>>>> are on the Microsoft Store. >>>>> There are plenty of articles which confirm that it is likely Apple >>>>> will replace iTunes with these apps, maybe this year, maybe next, >>>>> but once Apple released these separate apps for the Mac, iTunes for >>>>> the Mac went away pretty quick. Of course at this point you can't >>>>> do Books or Podcasts with any of these 3 apps so most likely such >>>>> apps will be coming for Windows first before iTunes goes away. >>>>> There is of course also the fact that you and others who transfer >>>>> huge amounts of media whether MP3, M4A or Daisy format are a very >>>>> small minority considering how easy it is to access this stuff via >>>>> the web and as I read in one article, Apple used to make a huge >>>>> amount of money from the sale of downloadable music on iTunes, but >>>>> now service revenue which means streaming revenue and revenue from >>>>> services such as iCloud, News etc. is hugely bigger than what >>>>> people still spend on actually buying music. I am very much part of >>>>> that demographic, I used to spend hours in music stores back in >>>>> Germany in the mid and late 80's listening to vinyl and later CD's >>>>> and buying them, still very much so here in Canada throughout the >>>>> 90's, but already starting in the early 2000's I started >>>>> downloading music and of course now I have my Apple Music >>>>> subscription which gives me access to just about any music ever >>>>> made unless it is of course some small, locally produced artist. >>>>> For more or less half of what a CD cost 30 years ago I can pay my >>>>> monthly Apple Music subscription and listen to anything I want wherever I >>>>> am. >>>>> >>>>> In any case, the point o fthis post was more about how with this >>>>> free app it is very easy to make ringtones from songs and add them >>>>> to your ringtones library right on the iPhone without ever touching >>>>> any other device and I find this quite cool and it is certainly >>>>> something I will do from now on. Many years ago I wrote a tutorial >>>>> on how to make ringtones in iTunes and boy was it complicated >>>>> compared to using this Ringtone Maker app and Garage Band. >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf >>>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson >>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 5:16 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and >>>>> Garage Band apps >>>>> >>>>> I'll stick with iTunes. I use it all the time to get audio books >>>>> and audio dramas on to my iPhone. I use the file sharing option in >>>>> iTunes. >>>>> >>>>>> On 1/25/24, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Sorry, forgot to include the link for the app, here it is: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ringtones Maker - the ring >>>>>> app<https://apps.apple.com/us/app/ringtones-maker-the-ring-app/id1 >>>>>> 3581 >>>>>> 07315> The app is free to use, there is a “Remove Ads” button and >>>>>> 07315> for >>>>>> $2.99 US or >>>>>> $3.99 Canadian you can support the developer and get rid of ads. >>>>>> >>>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On >>>>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 1:11 AM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Creating ringtones on iPhone with Ringtone Maker and >>>>>> Garage Band apps >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> I haven’t used iTunes for a long time and on my laptop I have been >>>>>> playing around a little with the new Windows app which eventually >>>>>> will replace iTunes, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices. >>>>>> Basically the functionality of iTunes which allows you to manage >>>>>> and listen to the various media types as well as provide a device >>>>>> section where you could update/restore your iPhone or add >>>>>> ringtones to be synced to your connected iPhone is now divided up >>>>>> among these apps similar to how it is on a Mac. >>>>>> Unfortunately at this stage the Apple Devices app which is >>>>>> accessible for things like updating/restoring your phone, making >>>>>> encrypted backups, turn Voiceover on/off etc. does not include an >>>>>> option to sync ringtones to your device. Maybe it does not yet >>>>>> include this feature as the app is still in Beta testing phase, >>>>>> but either way since I did a complete reset of my iPhonelast night >>>>>> I was looking for a way to at least get some of my favourite songs back >>>>>> as ringtones. >>>>>> After listening to a YouTube video, I downloaded the app the guy >>>>>> was using and found that it is a pretty simple app and it is >>>>>> accessible. I am including a link later. Basically when I opened >>>>>> the app I was able to import a song from my computer into the app >>>>>> which is achieved by entering an IP address into a browser, this >>>>>> takes you to a simple website where you can browse to your song >>>>>> and import it. This worked well and the song was then in the app. >>>>>> Here I was able to clip the song so it’s only 30 seconds long and >>>>>> setting start time and end time as well as enabling a fade in and >>>>>> fade out effect was easy to do. Then I tapped the “Make” button >>>>>> which created the ringtone with the correct M4R extension. >>>>>> After that I I found a “Share” option under “More” and I was able >>>>>> to select Garage Band which I also installed on my iPhone before, >>>>>> for those who don’t know it, this app is a free app from Apple >>>>>> which allows you to create and work with all sorts of audio. After >>>>>> I shared it, I opened Garage Band, tapped on “My songs” and my >>>>>> ringtone was there. >>>>>> Flicking down on the song gave me a bunch of options and again one >>>>>> of them was “Share”. After tapping it, I had several options >>>>>> including “Ringtone”. >>>>>> When I tapped it I was told the length of the song had to be >>>>>> adjusted, It said “Your ringtone needs to be 30 seconds or less >>>>>> and will be automatically shortened to the appropriate length”. >>>>>> I tapped continue and then had only two options, “Cancel” and >>>>>> “Export”. I tapped on export and then when I went to Settings > >>>>>> Sounds and Haptics > Ringtones it was right there and I was able to >>>>>> select it. >>>>>> >>>>>> This method is not as easy and quick as copying a bunch of already >>>>>> existing ringtones and simply pasting them into the appropriate >>>>>> section in iTunes, but it is not very difficult and one can >>>>>> certainly make some ringtones based on songs this way. >>>>>> There is also an option where you can select a video from yoru >>>>>> photo library on the iPhone if you have one which includes audio. >>>>>> The audio is then extracted and you can make a ringtone from this. >>>>>> Lastly, you do of course have options in Garage Band to create >>>>>> your own music or record yourself if you are a musician, but that >>>>>> is one thing I am not. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will once again leave feedback for Apple in the next little >>>>>> while asking them to hopefully add the ability to sync ringtones >>>>>> via the Apple Devices app or even better would be if they allows >>>>>> for some other way to simply import them from a place like Dropbox >>>>>> or other cloud storage service. 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