I always find it funny when companies and Sonos is included here, claim they support lossless audio via Bluetooth which is simply not possible. I'm not saying it doesn't sound very good, but even the most current and modern Bluetooth version and protocols have limitations when it comes to how much information can be streamed ant 1411 Kbps which is truly lossless audio is not possible, here is an excerpt from an article I recently read on Gear Patrol, I am putting the link to the full article below:
Can lossless audio be streamed over Bluetooth? The short answer is no. In order to listen to lossless digital audio files, you have two main options. You can use an analog connection, like connecting your wired headphones to your smartphone or computer. Or you can stream the lossless audio over Wi-Fi, through a pair of active speakers, such as KEF Wireless II or even multi-room speaker like Sonos. There are technologies that let you stream high bitrate audio over Bluetooth. For example, if your smartphone and headphones support either of some audio codecs, such as Sony’s LDAC (up to 990 kbps) or Qualcomm’s aptX Adaptive (up to 570 kbps), you can stream stream high bitrate and low latency audio files over Bluetooth. However, these audio files aren’t lossless (which is 1,411 kbps). Is Lossless Audio the New Hi-Fi? It’s Not That Simple<https://www.gearpatrol.com/audio/lossless-audio-hi-fi/> Best regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here Since I have had the Apple Airpods Max since they came out, unless they die, I don’t see any real need to buy these. The extra battery life looks great, but to my ears, the Apple Airpods Max are fantastic. Like you say, since they didn’t include Wi-Fi, the battery life is really the only thing I would want, but only if these die. Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here No worries Richard, now instead of posting the first message I'll simply say that I am deeply disappointed that these are just another pair of super expensive Bluetooth headsets. I really thought that apart from that they would also support Wi-Fi connectivity when you are at home as all other Sonos products do and that they could be used as any other Sonos player and could be grouped with other Sonos players if, for example, my wife was watching a movie on our Arc surround setup and I wanted to listen on the headset while I was doing something else. Apparently it is very easy to transfer whatever is playing on another Sonos speaker to the headset which is somewhat nice, but I find it disappointing nonetheless. The first review I just read did sound positive in terms of the headset's design and sound quality. Apparently it is a definite step up from Apple's Airpods Max at a $100 lower price point and also competes well against Sony's top of the line offering. I may order one just to experience it, but I am 95% certain that I would probably send it back. Here the link to the review from Cult of Mac: Sonos Ace headphones, the company's first, take on AirPods Max | Cult of Mac<https://www.cultofmac.com/857004/sonos-ace-headphones-take-on-airpods-max/#google_vignette> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 7:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Sonos headphones are here Sorry Sieghared to beat you to the punch, but for those waiting for Sonos to release headphones, they announced them today. They will be available June 5th for $449 US. https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/sonos-ace Richard, USA "It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. 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