Very helpful. When the thread started I mentioned that it sounded like my 
air pod max.
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  From: Sieghard Weitzel
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2024 12:17 PM
  Subject: RE: Airpods 4


  Different from what would be my question.

  If you mean different from Airpods 2 or 3 then simply different in that it 
is a new generation with a newer chip and you can get them either with or 
without noise cancellation for the first time. I think at least it’s the 
first time that active noise cancellation is offered with the regular 
Airpods, before this was only available with the Airpods Pro.

  If you mean how are they different to Airpods Pro then the answer would be 
that they don’t have a thingi with a silicon piece which stick inside your 
ear canal. They are basically like a set of wired Earpods if you were to cut 
the cable off.

  I was very impressed by the active noise cancellation of the Airpods 4. 
When you have ANC on a set of Airpods Pro which basically completely seal 
your ear canal from outside noise or even with a big over the head and over 
the ear headset like the Airpod Max, a certain amount of noise reduction is 
already achieved by blocking your ears. But when you take the Airpod 4 which 
just sits in the outer part of your ear just like the wired Earpods, I would 
say 90% to 95% of outside noice can still be heard which is why I like 
wearing my wired Earpods so much when I am walking and want to listen to a 
book or to directions from the GPS etc. I often only put in the right side 
which means my left ear is entirely unobstructed and I still hear very well 
with my right ear as well.

  When I tried the Airpod 4 with ANC at the Apple Store I could hear just as 
much when I first put them in my ears, but as soon as he turned on the ANC, 
it was like closing the very thick door to a well insulated room and just 
about all the noise went away. If you have never experienced this, it’s like 
magic. Then when the Apple employee was speaking to me he turned on 
transparency mode and suddenly it was like opening that door again and I 
could hear just fine. I am definitely going to order a pair of these and 
already ordered a set of these ear hooks as well as a cable/string gadget to 
connect them together since I know for sure it wouldn’t take long for me to 
lose them. Hopefully this won’t happen with those accessories.



  From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
  Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2024 12:37 AM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: Airpods 4



  How is this Air pod 4 different?

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Andy Baracco

    To: [email protected]

    Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 10:22 PM

    Subject: RE: Airpods 4



    The AirPods Max are an old style over the ear headset.



    Andy





    From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
    Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 8:58 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: Airpods 4



    It sounds like you are talking about the pro max.

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Sieghard Weitzel

      To: [email protected]

      Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2024 5:11 PM

      Subject: Airpods 4



      Hi,



      As I am currently in Vancouver training with my new guide dog, I 
decided to go ahead and buy an iPhone 16 Pro. I placed the order via the 
Apple Store website for pick up at an Apple Store near my hotel and while I 
was there asked to have a brief demo of the Airpods 4 with noise 
cancellation. I always thought Airpods had a thingi which sticks inside your 
ear, but the Apple Store employee told me that only the Airpod Pro has that 
and the regular Airpods are basically not really all that different than the 
wired Earpods except of course they don’t have a wire. I hate anything 
sticking in my ear hence I’d never buy the Airpods Pro, but I must say that 
I was very surprised by the regular Airpods 4. When he enabled the noise 
cancellation feature all the noise in the Apple Store which are typically 
very noisy, just about vanished like somebody closed a thick door and I 
couldn’t even hear the employee speaking to me from a few feet away. He then 
turned on transparency mode and to my surprise I could hear him and 
everything around me perfectly. Once again, I assumed that this feature 
would result in less than optimal hearing of what is going on around you and 
that naybe it would sound artificial, but it really is amazing how good it 
sounds. I am at this point pretty much sold on these little things with one 
exception and that is the ease of how they may fall out and get lost. I have 
hand injuries and am missing a couple of fingers on each hand and at one 
point when I tried to try to use the play/pause function I accidently 
knocked it loose and even just there in the store it bounced off the table 
and fell down. I’m sure I would get a hang of them in time, but I was 
wondering if anybody is using any sort of gadget to connect them together 
with a string or cable. I think it’s silly of Apple not to design them with 
a small loop/hole so you could at least connect them together, but while I 
haven’t looked yet, I assume third party solutions exist which accomplish 
this?





      Best regards,

      Sieghard



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