Right, but on the iPhone, you open a message and your focus is automatically in the body of the message, so you don't have to worry about containers.
I don’t' use a Mac. But on the iPad, it is not very straight forward. Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 10:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between the left and right side of the screen on an iPad 13 Pro with a magic keyboard? On the iPhone, at least message, headers message, body and toolbar for all separate containers. On the Mac, this extends to the entire message also being a container with two containers inside it. One the body and one head. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2025, at 1:30 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Thanks Chris, That is at least a work around. I had tried containers, but I thought, logically, that one container would be the left side with the from and subject, etc., and another container would be the right side with the contents of the selected message. But, apparently, straight forward logic is not appropriate, 😊. I would still reach up and touch the screen, which once you get used to about where to touch, is very quick. Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cris Ali Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 10:18 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between the left and right side of the screen on an iPad 13 Pro with a magic keyboard? Hi Kevin and Richard. I have iPad M4 with the Apple Magic Keyboard. Here is how I read my email on my iPad using the Magic keyboard. After I select the message I want to read I do the following to go to the content of the message. 1. I press and hold the VO and command keys. While holding, I press left or right arrow keyy until I reach containers. I press the down arrow 3 or four times until I land on the message content. 2. Once I am in the message content, I read its content by moving with the right or left arrows. If the message is too long I hit read all, which is VO Plus A. This sounds a little requiring too many steps, but in reality once you get the hang of it, it becomes routine and easy to do. Regards, Sent from my iPad On Apr 18, 2025, at 12:25 PM, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: As you may have already seen, I finally answered this from your previous message after also spending time with an Apple advisor and the answer is there is no command. You have to reach over and touch the screen. I did recommend he escalate the issue, as this should be possible; but currently isn't. HTH, Richard, USA, "When you come to the edge of all the light you know and are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly." -- Barbara J. Winter. My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ From: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Kevin Minor Sent: Friday, April 18, 2025 9:14 AM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Is there a keyboard shortcut to switch between the left and right side of the screen on an iPad 13 Pro with a magic keyboard? Hi. I asked this question in brief in an earlier message, but I’d like to be more thorough in this message. I’ve been using my new iPad 13 Pro for the past few days, and I’m having all sorts of fun with it. Some things still confuse me, and it’s why I’m reaching out to the group. I called Apple Accessibility about this, and the woman that I got was doing her best to help, but she really didn’t know much about the topic. All I want to do is select an email to read, and hit a key to get it to the message content. She kept talking about gestures, and I mentioned those things would be done on the screen. After a couple of times going through this, I finally asked her what key combination to press on the Magic keyboard. It was then she mentioned using the track pad, and I turned that off, because I was getting tired of hitting it, and I’d end up somewhere on another planet or something. To her credit, she really tried to help me, but she really didn’t know enough to give me the information I needed. As a side note, let me tell you about what those you reach on help lines go through. I’ve done the job, and for the most part it was quite fun. Sadly, there’s a great deal of information they have to weed through, and much of it is written down, and often it’s not so obvious where to look. Consider what the person answering your call is going through. Remember they’re on the jfront lines of things, and you may have tried several ways to do something, or perhaps are told something by another person something you know doesn’t work. Needless to say, you may not be very happy. It’s in this state you try to get help. Remember the person you get has no idea what’s going to happen, and it can be pretty stressful. Just do your best to realize it’s not the person’s fault that you didn’t get the best help, but I definitely know it’s not the easiest thing to do. I very well remember the frustrated people calling me, and they said some not so pleasant things venting their frustration to me. I couldn’t yell back at the person, I just had to take whatever they said, and try to calmly talk to them. Sadly, I had a time or two when I didn’t do so well. My point is these people are people that have feelings, and sometimes call after call come from mad people, and it takes a lot of effort to stay calm. Don’t get me wrong, I did have funny calls, and when I worked at IBM, I actually got a call from a supervisor of an employee. He informed me he had a blind worker, and that person needed this program called JAWS installed on his computer. Now, either the call was cold transferred to me, or some divine power led me to him. I wrote a very detailed explanation of how to install JAWS on the computer. That kind of call where no script is read, but simply what I know is very gratifying. It was also nice for some people who were pretty upset to tell me they understood I wasn’t really the problem, and that person was just frustrated. With the development of screen sharing and many windows to keep track of, it makes this kind of job for those who use specialized tec hnology to do the job. I apologize for writing something so long, but I felt it important to give folks some insight in what the people on the other side of the phone go through. As I said, it usually was quite fun, and it was great to get that upset caller laughing. I’ve had this happen, and I’m sure many of you can relate, but I’m trying to do something that’s not working on my computer. I call up the help desk, and tell them what’s up. They tell me to try something I swore I did, but they say to give it another try. If a caller told me that, I’d say for them to just humor me and try one more time. How many times do they say “Wow! It actually worked. What did you do?” Truthfully, I did nothing, but I said something humorous like I did this voodoo dance, waving a chicken bone at their computer. A sense of humor really helps in a job like that, and honestly, most people are quite nice to get along with. Again, I apologize for the long message, but I wanted to share what I know, and it may help you out next time you have to make that frustrating call. You can forget most of this note, but could someone please tell me the gesture on the keyboard for swiping and multi finger movements so I can get to that unknown zone on my screen to read the message? Thanks in advance. Actually, today is going well for me, and it’s Friday, so I guess I’m having a good Friday. Couldn’t resist. 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