Folks, I believe that "Live Read" works  on device. To my understanding, 
that means that nothing is sent  to outside servers, making it an excellent 
privacy choice. i would use live read to go over personal information such 
as, medical or financial stuff. Sullivan plus, Speakaboo, Be My eyes, 
Seeing aiAlly, Envision, I Can See, Help You See and Super Sense, to name 
those I've tried, all use outside servers to process. I'm sending messages 
to this group. Does that mean I have already given up any hope of privacy? 

On Saturday, November 8, 2025 at 4:24:00 PM UTC-5 Richard Turner wrote:

> Seeing AI handles the shorttext which is what it defaults to on the phone, 
> but I believe has more other features you can choose to use.
> Both are free.
> I tried Live Read and decided to stick with Seeing AI. Seeing AI has been 
> around quite a while now.
>
>
>
> Richard, USA
>
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." -- John Wesley
>
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
> (sent from my iPhone 16 pro) 
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2025, at 1:12 PM, Barbara Stahl <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 
>
> So what is the difference between this app and The seeing AI app?
>
> On Nov 8, 2025, at 8:56 AM, CC <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Folks "Live Read" app is fabulous. Apparently, it wourds off line,so I am 
> less reluctant incoming letter mail. It works as soon as the app opens. 
> I've recommended a two hour local institute for the blind. I feel 
> unreservedly able to recommend it to all and sundry. Give it a try.
>
> On Saturday, November 1, 2025 at 7:09:10 PM UTC-4 CC wrote:
>
>> Gooday Folks, I downloaded "live Read" and it is excellent. Previously I 
>> had used, "Eye-D". In Off line mode, one simply pressed the camera button 
>> repeatedly, until the text made sense. Thanx for the tip on "Live Read" and 
>> I'll try "Prizmogo" as another off line option. 
>>
>> On Sunday, October 26, 2025 at 3:21:29 PM UTC-4 Donald Ball wrote:
>>
>>> Seeing AI works that way right out of the box 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 
>>>
>>> > On Oct 26, 2025, at 9:50 AM, Goshawk On Horseback <
>>> [email protected]> wrote: 
>>> > 
>>> > Thanks, that is absolutely perfect. 
>>> > 
>>> > Simon, the March Merman. 
>>> > 
>>> >> On 26 Oct 2025, at 13:38, 'Richard Turner' via VIPhone <
>>> [email protected]> wrote: 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Seeing AI defaults to immediately recognizing text. Note if you move 
>>> the camera and it sees other text it will begin reading that new text, but 
>>> also has the picture taking if you want to be sure to hold on the current 
>>> text... 
>>> >> Below is the app store link and the description from the App store. 
>>> >> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/seeing-ai/id999062298 
>>> >> Description 
>>> >> Seeing AI is a free app that narrates the world around you. Designed 
>>> with and for the blind and low vision community, this ongoing research 
>>> project harnesses the power of AI to open up the visual world by describing 
>>> nearby people, text and objects. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Seeing AI provides tools to assist with a variety of daily tasks: 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Read - Hear text as soon as it appears in front of the camera. 
>>> Document alignment provides audio cues to capture a printed page and 
>>> recognize the text along with its original formatting. Ask Seeing AI about 
>>> the contents to easily find the information you need. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Describe - Take photos to hear a rich description. Ask questions to 
>>> focus on the information you care about. Explore photos by moving your 
>>> finger over the screen to hear the location of different objects. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Products - Scan barcodes and Accessible QR codes using audio beeps 
>>> to guide you; hear the product name and package information when available. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • People - Save photos of friends and coworkers so you can recognize 
>>> them later. Get an estimate of their age, gender, and expression. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Currency - Recognize currency notes. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Find My Things - Teach Seeing AI to recognize your personal objects 
>>> and follow the audio cues to find them later. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • World - An Audio Augmented Reality experience to explore an 
>>> unfamiliar environment, including hearing objects announced around you with 
>>> Spatial Audio (requires a device with a LiDAR, and iOS 14+). 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Colors - Identify colors. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Light - Hear an audible tone corresponding to the brightness of 
>>> your surroundings. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Photos and Videos in other apps - Just tap “Share” and “Recognize 
>>> with Seeing AI” to describe media from Mail, Photos, WhatsApp, and more. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> • Browse Photos - Hear descriptions of photos and videos saved on 
>>> your device. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Seeing AI continues to evolve as we hear from the community, and AI 
>>> research advances. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Visit http://SeeingAI.com for more details. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Questions, feedback or feature requests? Email us at 
>>> [email protected]. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> more 
>>> >> What’s New 
>>> >> Version History 
>>> >> Sep 4, 2025 Version 5.6.1 
>>> >> This release includes several bug fixes to make your experience even 
>>> better. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Richard, USA 
>>> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.” 
>>> >> – Jane Wagner, from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the 
>>> Universe. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> -----Original Message----- 
>>> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>>> Goshawk On Horseback 
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2025 6:21 AM 
>>> >> To: [email protected] 
>>> >> Subject: Quick ocr app? 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Hello all, does anyone know of any ocr apps, that will start 
>>> recognising in real time, without having to go through all the faff of 
>>> actual picture taking first? 
>>> >> I used to have a very handy app called Perfect OCR which did this, 
>>> but ever since the iOS 26 update, as soon as I try to do that, it just 
>>> crashes every single time, and won’t work, which is extremely irritating, 
>>> so does anyone know of any other OCR apps that work in that way please? 
>>> Hope that makes sense, thanks. 
>>> >> 
>>> >> Simon, the March Merman. 
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