I agree the software patent system needs to be revised, but I'm not sure
it doesn't currently help the end user and doesn't foster innovation
itself. If a company couldn't protect it's intellectual property, and
any one else could copy a company's innovation, I'm not sure how
motivated companies would be to come up with their own innovative ideas.

I don't think Code Factory's touch screen access bears much resemblance
to what we have today with IOS and Android. It's been along time since I
reviewed how Code Factory's touch screen access worked, but as I
recalled, it divided the screen up into quadrants so you only need to
tap in one of the four corners. I think it was innovative for it's day,
and they probably could have patented some of their ideas, but like I
said, I don't think it did much to prepare the way for what Apple did
with VoiceOver.

On 01/03/13 19:19, Peter Durieux wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> If they had spent all their money into innovation and research in stead of 
> fighting crazy pattern wars at justice, imagine what we all good have done 
> with the new products and sod software there would be released.
> Patterns are not helping the enduser. and of the record, was codefactory not 
> the first 
> in  the way we now use for exloring a touch interface?
> 
> Just my 2 cents. 
> 
> kr
> 
> -Peter
> 
> 
> 
> Op 1-mrt.-2013, om 14:43 heeft Ricardo Walker <[email protected]> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree lol.  But to be fair, the reason why swiping doesn't automatically 
>> scroll the page like on IOS is because it violates Apples patent on 
>> scrolling or some such thing like that.  That one is out of Androids hands.
>>
>> Ricardo Walker
>> [email protected]
>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>> www.appletothecore.info
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2013, at 11:28 PM, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. I currently have both the IPhone 5 and an Android phone to
>>> play with running the absolute latest version of Android and as stock
>>> as it gets. Stock Android is our best bet as it means that it has not
>>> been altered as manufacturers like to endlessly do on the Android
>>> side. They all feel the need to reinvent the interface to whatever
>>> extent satisfies them. Stock Android gets rid of that concern for you.
>>> This is stock and absolutely is not equal to the IPhone. It is
>>> amazingly better than 2.3 was, this is 4.2 by the way, but not equal
>>> to the I devices. It is finally usable and in my opinions and that of
>>> many others, 2.3 was barely usable depending what you wanted to do. To
>>> get at some functions you have to do these sweeping gestures that you
>>> have to satisfy the system that is what you want and after you gain
>>> entry to that screen by doing that, then you can pick that function
>>> you were trying to do. With the IPhone I could have had the task
>>> accomplished five minutes ago already. On my Android device the two
>>> finger scroll gestures are successful about half the time and the
>>> other half of the time they either mostly end up activating things on
>>> the screen I had no intention of activating or sometimes they don't
>>> take. Like it will start to scroll and then decide I did not do it
>>> sufficiently and bounce back instead to where it was. In listening to
>>> how to do things, I would have never thought the two finger scroll
>>> would be the subject of endless frustration and problems. Well, it is.
>>> And guess what, you have to scroll with that gesture a lot. Swiping
>>> will not ever scroll the screen. You have to. It is a task I dread and
>>> want to throw the bleeping thing every time I have to do it because it
>>> gives me so much problem and should not be like that. I have been
>>> using the IPhone continuously sice 2010 and had some experience before
>>> that. I know how to do gestures including those with multiple fingers
>>> and rarely are they a problem for me to execute on the IPhone. So no,
>>> it is not just my fumbling because I haven't learned this type of
>>> interaction.
>>> On 2/28/13, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Neal,
>>>> I never had an Android phone, but I do have an Android tablet. And I am 
>>>> glad
>>>> I still have my iPhone 4S. I hear a lot of folks say that with Jellybean
>>>> 4.2, Android accessibility is about on par with ios, and I can't agree.
>>>> Inconsistent operation is one reason. Braille access is another.
>>>> Inconsistent operation of the gestures is a third. And the reasons you 
>>>> cited
>>>> with the lack of audio feedback when moving apps and the inability to label
>>>> buttons is another. I'm glad I have the luxury of being able to play with
>>>> the Nexus 7 tablet, but there is no way I would move from the iPhone to
>>>> Android at this time. ios isn't perfect. But the accessibility is
>>>> considerably more polished, IMHO. The mail app is another area where ios is
>>>> really good, especially with that new delete feature. I don't want to start
>>>> a Android versus ios thread. But for me, an end user firmly in the camp of
>>>> my device being a means to an end, rather than a fun thing to play with 
>>>> that
>>>> must offer me endless choice, I'm happy to stay with ios for now.
>>>>
>>>> Mary
>>>>
>>>> Mary Otten
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
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