Hi Fanus,

To change the button action so you can record by double tapping the
Record button instead of sliding it to the right (which you'd have to
do with VoiceOver turned off)  in FiRe 2, go to Settings (4th of 5
tabs on the bottom), double tap, then flick right to "Transport" and
double tap, Then, on the "Transport" screen, under the "Record Button"
heading, flick right to "Button Controls".  A further flick right will
tell you the switch button status, which is initially set to "off".
Double tap to set this to "switch button, on", and you will notices
that some of the other options under the "Record Button" heading, like
"Slide To Stop", will disappear.  I also set the switch button for
"Hold to Record" to "switch button, off", so you don't have to keep
holding down the "Record Button" for the length of your recording
session.

The ability to change the way of starting recording in Settings by
tapping instead of sliding the "Record" button is a recent
modification (version 2.6, January 2013). This is basically the reason
that Annie and I stopped playing with this app when this new setup for
FiRe 2 appeared in late 2011.

Fanus, I think Carla was mainly thanking me for some old tips on using
the Mail Archive page to search for posted content on this list, more
than for describing how to change the Record  button action in FiRe
2.  Let me tell you how you can find out the answers to your questions
for yourself, by using the link to the Mail Archive page that appears
at the end of every post:
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone%40googlegroups.com/

First, just typing search terms into the text box on that page and
pressing enter will give you several good results, shown as a list of
links to posts by subject line, with a brief section of matching text
context, along with a date and the name of the poster. This is like
being able to do a Google search on this mailing list's contents, But
you can also filter the results according to the poster, date range,
and subject, and you can use wild cards like the asterisk character in
your search terms, if you're not sure of the spelling.  So, for
example, since Neal Ewers started the discussions on FiRe 2, a good
way to search for content on FiRe 2 would be to type into the search
text box:
from:Neal FiRe
and then press enter.  The "from:" filter term ends in a colon, and
whether I leave a space after the colon before typing a name is
optional.  The arguments are not case sensitive. However, the name I
type in must match a word that shows up in the "From:" field of his
posts. It can be either a first or last name, or it can even be more
than one word if I enclose his full name in quotation marks, but
that's generally not necessary.This search will give me every post
that Neal wrote which contains the word, "FiRe" somewhere in the post,
and I'll be told (at present) that there are 13 matches.

The results are listed in order of "relevance" to your search term, so
posts where "FiRe" appears several times will be listed first.  But if
I want to catch up with how Neal first introduced the topic, and any
questions he may have posed to the list, I can add the filter terms
"sort:oldest" to have the oldest posts appear first, or I can use
"sort:newest" to have the most recent matches listed first.  Again,
there is a colon after the word "sort", and I could place these
arguments before or after the search terms or "from" filter in my
search text box. Most often I'll use the command to move back a page
to return to my original search text box arguments and either add
arguments to or modify the search terms I used, depending on how many
results I got, and how these turned out.  So my search terms could be:
from:Neal FiRe sort:oldest
And when I press the return key, I find that his first post on this
subject is "Questions about Fire 2 Field Recorder", and that short
synopsis shows he's asking how to change action of the "Record"
button. Now if I activate the link to that post in the list of
results, I can read his full post.

What's very powerful about he Mail Archive page is that there are
access-key shortcuts that work for any browser/operating system
combination, and that let you read up and down the threads. So for
Safari on a Mac, the access-key prefix is the Control key, and if I
press Control-n, I'll navigate to the next post in the thread, which
is my answer on how to change the action of the "Record" button.  If I
press Control-p, I can read the previous post in a thread.  If I'm
using another computer and browser combination, I just use the
appropriate access-key for that browser in place of the Control key
(e.g., Alt-n and Alt-p for Internet Explorer on Windows, Alt-Shift-n
and Alt-Shift-p for Netscape, etc.)

Now, let's assume that I want to find the first posts of all the
threads about FiRe 2, and read down them at the Mail Archive site.  I
can use the Boolean search feature to exclude posts that have the
"Re:" string for replies by adding that as a search term, but typing a
hyphen character immediately before this string.  So my search terms
are:
FiRe 2 -Re sort:newest
and when I press return, I get 7 matches.  They include one thread
about games and a second about a drive that can be used with the
Kindle Fire, which is why I added the sort argument , since the
threads discussing FiRe Field Recorder are recent.

You can now activate these links and use Control-n to read down every
post on this topic.

For more information on search syntax and access-key shortcuts, check
the Mail Archive FAQ pages at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html

I hope this has been a practical example of how to use the search
function to find content in the list archives.  It takes about a day
or less for new content to be indexed for searches, but if you're
looking for recent posts, you can simply go to the Mail Archive web
page for this site without searching for text, and do a "Find" on that
web page.  Also, although I described how to do a search on the Mac,
you can equivalently move to the links for the next and previous posts
on iOS devices.  Finally, you can copy the URL address of the post you
want to reference (e.g., on a Mac, move to the Safari address bar with
Command-L, and copy the URL with Command-C), then paste the link into
your mail post with Command-V.

There's also a recent AppleVis podcast that describes how to create 3-
line web shortcut files on the Mac that you can place on your Desktop
or in the Dock, and open to open your browser at that web page.  I
make such web shortcut files that open on the Mail Archive pages for
these lists.  You can read printed instructions for doing this on a
Mac at John Panarese's MacfortheBlind pages:
http://macfortheblind.com/Tips-and-Tricks-for-the-Mac
Navigate to the heading for "Web Shortcut Files"

Here's the shortened link to the AppleVis Podcast page in question:
bit.ly/10BKauz

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther




On Mar 14, 10:24 pm, "Fanus" <buys.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> HelloCarla& Esther
> How does one start a recording. There is a slide which VO
> says but when I double tap on it nothing happens.
> RegardsFanus
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CarlaSavage" <ca...@astromech.demon.co.uk>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 10:07 AM
> Subject: Re: Fire 2?
>
> Hi Esther,
> Thanks very much for your tips. I have now
> successfully made some recordings with this app
> and I have to say that the results are pretty
> amazing even though I used the built-in mic.
> I've not attempted any editing yet but I've been
> reading from the mannual and see no reason why this isn't
> do-able.
> I've not come across the various settings for
> female voice etc yet but there does seem to
> be  highpass lowpass etc which may be worth experimenting
> with.
> Take care,
> Cokes.
>
> At 03:45 05/03/2013, you wrote:
> >Hi DJ, Richard, and Others,
>
> >The app is FiRe 2 - Field Recorder ($5.99) by Audiofile
> >Engineering:
> >https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/fire-2-field-recorder/id436241643?mt=8
>
> >The name comes from the two initial letters of the words,
> >"Field
> >Recorder", since the original  FiRe app (spelled capital
> >"F", small
> >letter "i", capital "R", small letter "e") was the first
> >professional
> >grade recorder for the iPhone for recording gigs in the
> >field.
>
> >The editing functions and additional customization for
> >sampling rates
> >were added in version two of the app, which I haven't tried
> >to use yet
> >with VoiceOver. They also allowed you to record mono
> >tracks, and
> >provided various equalizer settings to boost male or female
> >voice
> >recordings, or optimize for specifc settings, like lecture
> >recordings
> >or concerts. The sort of features that were accessible in
> >version 1 of
> >FiRe that you didn't find in other such apps were precise
> >marker
> >placement and navigation by these markers within tracks.
>
> >One warning for something not to try with VoiceOver: do not
> >attempt to
> >get and use the R de microphone apps, because these will
> >kill
> >VoiceOver.  In the original release of FiRe, there was a
> >separate,
> >free version of the FiRe app that was released for the Blue
> >Microphone
> >product called Blue FiRe.  Blue FiRe and the first version
> >of FiRe are
> >long since gone from the app store, but the Blue FiRe app
> >was a useful
> >free version of FiRe to learn on.  It didn't have all the
> >accessibility features of FiRe for marker placement, but it
> >had an
> >introductory recording explaining how the app was used, and
> >included a
> >lot of the basic recording features of FiRe.  If you had an
> >iPhone 3GS
> >or early generation iPod Touch, you could use it to record.
>
> >While I was reading about Audiofile Engineering's recent
> >iPhone
> >microphone support, I came across references to the R de
> >iXY
> >microphone for the iPhone 4S and older iPad models.  This
> >is billed as
> >a 24-bit/96kHz-capable recording device that demoed at the
> >Consumer
> >Electronic Show and started shipping last month.  It also
> >was supposed
> >to have a special version of the FiRe 2 app to use for
> >recording (same
> >price of $5.99 for the app), and a free recording app named
> >"R DE Rec
> >LE", both by R DE Microphones.  I'll just say that if you
> >load the
> >"R DE Rec LE" app and launch it, your VoiceOver volume will
> >get set to
> >0 with no way of getting the volume back unless you can
> >kill the app,
> >or reset your iPhone. You can kill the app in the app
> >switcher if you
> >perform all the VoiceOver gestures without sound feedback,
> >and VO will
> >come back. Or if you have the regular FiRe 2 app in your
> >app switcher
> >and can switch to that, you can also get sound back. Just
> >don't even
> >bother to try the R DE Microphones apps if you use
> >VoiceOver without
> >vision.  They won't be of any use.
>
> >HTH.  Cheers,
>
> >Esther
>
> >On Mar 4, 3:18 pm, Richard Turner
> ><richard.turne...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > It is FiRe 2
>
> > > Richard
> > > (Sent from Richard's iPod Touch 5th gen)
>
> > > On Mar 4, 2013, at 2:48 PM, "DJ" <grou...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Is this app not openly available on the app
> > store, or am I not entering it in correctly?  Thanks.
>
> > > > DJ
>
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