James, pursuant to that idea, I'm going to show the Google Maps screen to an experienced iOS user and see if this button can be identified.
Craig On 4/8/13, James Mannion <[email protected]> wrote: > It sounds like the most likely answer that it requires tapping a > button no longer seen by voiceover. Hopefully that's not the case. > Just because it does not speak something at all for us unfortunately > doesn't mean it is not there. > > On 4/8/13, Craig Werner <[email protected]> wrote: >> Christopher, in the long run, a badly-chosen label name is a minor >> accessibility issue; but if it prevents one from investigating >> further, it can potentially be a show-stopper. Not everyone is of an >> experimental nature. Having said that, I add that you and I agree >> that Google Maps is worth pursuing as a possible workable app. Over >> the next few days, I'll try to get an answer to my question about how >> voice-guided directions can be resurrected in the latest version. >> >> Craig >> >> On 4/8/13, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: >>> True, I did think the icon labels in Google Maps was particularly >>> cryptic, but I frequently find a one word label for an icon to be >>> mysterious, and I need to do a bit of exploring to figure out what each >>> icon and button really leads to. Ditto for icons used by the sighted. >>> When asking a sighted friend or relative what a particular icon does, >>> I'll hear things like "it looks like a little flower" or "it's a square >>> with an equals sign in the middle". Considering the different hurdles I >>> face for accessibility the poor choice of a word or phrase for an icon >>> label seems like a pretty minor accessibility issue. >>> >>> On 04/08/2013 05:11 PM, Craig Werner wrote: >>>> Hello, Christopher. >>>> >>>> I haven't played with GoogleMaps in a while, but when I first >>>> downloded V. 1.0, I was struck by the unhelpful labels attached to >>>> buttons. The button now labeled "views" in the latest version was >>>> called "Layers entrypoints" in V. 1.0. The phrase "layers >>>> entrypoints" meant nothing to me. The button turned out to be a way >>>> to access satellite, traffic, and transit views. I recently showed >>>> Google Maps to a sighted user, and he noted the cryptic little icons >>>> next to buttons. In other words, the interface wasn't intuitive to >>>> him. At any rate, I agree with you entirely when you say a product is >>>> worth courting even if it is not workable out of the box. >>>> >>>> Craig >>>> >>>> On 4/8/13, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I'm curious why you refer to Google Map's questionable accessibility >>>>> record. I haven't used it in a while, so I can't answer your question, >>>>> but I downloaded it when it first came out, and I didn't have a >>>>> problem >>>>> with it's accessibility, so although something may have changed >>>>> recently, it's been accessible since the get go. Also, the reason to >>>>> keep trying it is because it may end up being a superior product. The >>>>> iPhone itself wasn't accessible when it first came out but people >>>>> didn't >>>>> give up on it. >>>>> >>>>> On 04/08/2013 12:45 PM, Craig Werner wrote: >>>>>> Greetings to the list. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know why I bother playing with Google Maps considering its >>>>>> questionable accessibility record, but I'm still curious about making >>>>>> this app work. When I upgraded to V. 1.16, I noticed the "Action >>>>>> Results" button seems to have been removed. I cannot figure out how >>>>>> to make the app speak voice-guided turn-by-turn instructions. I can >>>>>> plug in a starting point and a destination address, and I can call up >>>>>> a map if I press the "Paging Footer" button; but I can't enable >>>>>> voice-guided instructions. Any thoughts, please? >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW, "Action Results" and "Paging Footer" are cryptic labels to say >>>>>> the >>>>>> least. >>>>>> >>>>>> Craig >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Christopher (CJ) >>>>> chaltain at Gmail >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>>>> Google >>>>> Group. >>>>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "VIPhone" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an >>>>> email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (CJ) >>> chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >>> Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" >> Google >> Group. >> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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