On my pc, it stores what I assume are my books in documents, in a folder called 
my kindle content.  Keep in mind that these files are epub files with Amazon's 
digital rights management applied.  So, I guess even the titles are encrypted.  
But this folder is about 36 meg on my computer, and I think I had 6 or 8 books, 
I don't remember the exact number right now.  I assume these are my books. 

As I wrote in an earlier message, all these books were in the cloud when I 
installed the iPhone app, some of them I had bought a couple years ago.  I 
don't know how long they stay there. Being that I don't know of a way to 
transfer what I assume are my backed up books from the pc to the phone, I guess 
I would have to use the pc app to read them if they no longer were in the cloud 
the next time I want to read them. Perhaps, write or call Amazon and find out 
how long they will stay in the cloud, and let us know what they say.

Arnold Schmidt  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neal Ewers 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:59 PM
  Subject: RE: How do I keep a permanent copy of the books I download to the 
iPhone


  Well, Yes, I have the PC Kindle reader and it is very nice and accessible. 
But the book it accesses is not in any place I can find on my computer. I 
simply purchased it and it is on the cloud and on my device. I don't know if 
the book on my computer is really on the cloud or if it is on the computer. If 
it's on the computer, it is hidden. I have done a total computer search for all 
possible Kindle book file endings and it does not appear. So, making a backup 
copy of it is impossible. But, back to the computer version of the app. It is 
very nice and it syncs up with where you left off when reading on the device.

   

  Neal

   

   

  Neal

   

   

  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Arnold Schmidt
  Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 7:58 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: How do I keep a permanent copy of the books I download to the 
iPhone

   

  You can save books on your pc, and read them,  if you install the accessible 
kindle for pc app. Be sure to install the accessible for pc app, as opposed to 
the regular one.  You will know it is the correct one if it it is some 200 meg, 
as compared to maybe 20 meg for the regular app.

   

  Arnold Schmidt

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Neal Ewers 

    To: [email protected] 

    Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:51 PM

    Subject: RE: How do I keep a permanent copy of the books I download to the 
iPhone

     

    Alan, thanks for the tip about iBooks. That strengthens my theory that the 
inability to do this with the Kindle app is exactly what either Amazon, Apple, 
or both wanted to do. How silly. You purchase a book and it is totally tied to 
some cloud some place and cannot be put on your computer. I'm not sure the 
issue here, in that the books are assigned a code given your sine in 
credentials thus you can't share them. And that's not why I want to have access 
to them anyway. I may contact Amazon and ask why this is done.

     

    Yes, the Kindle device itself will allow certain books to be read aloud, 
but I don't believe you can do this with all books. I don't believe the iPhone 
App has that limitation, but I am not positive about that. I am reading Harry 
Potter, and I'm guessing that would not be a book that one can read with speech 
on the actual Kindle. I should check that out.

     

    Neal

     

     

    From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Alan Paganelli
    Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:28 PM
    To: [email protected]
    Subject: Re: How do I keep a permanent copy of the books I download to the 
iPhone

     

    Neal, the iBooks app for iPhone lets you do that.  I have the app and it's 
totally accessible.  It creates a folder within iTunes, iTunes Media, books.  
Any books you buy or download from the apple store go into that folder.  You 
can do what you will with your books.  And, if you download other books from 
other sorceress like txt format etc, you can drop those too into that folder.  
When you then sync your phone with iTunes, those books you dropped into the 
books folder get synced to your iPhone.  Note: iBooks does not read .EPUB 
(Kindle) book format books.  However, the Kindle book reader does read most all 
popular formats.  I've downloaded the free Kindle app and it doesn't seem to 
let you keep your books on your computer unless I'm missing something.  It 
looks to me like Amazon was just giving in to the demand for accessibility of 
Kindle books by iPhone users.  The actual Kindle hardware is accessible.  It 
has been so for some time.  I bought my daughter who loves to read a Kindle 
several years ago for Christmas.  One day she called me up on the phone and 
said, hey dad, listen to this and I heard the book being read by a screen 
reader.  They have improved quite a bit on that and all kindles today have a 
text to speech reading option.

     

    The Kindle is a good book reading device and very limited as a computer.  

     

    HTH

      ----- Original Message ----- 

      From: Neal Ewers 

      To: [email protected] 

      Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 8:48 AM

      Subject: How do I keep a permanent copy of the books I download to the 
iPhone

       

      Hi, If I download a book directly to my iPhone, is there any way I can 
keep it permanently. If I delete if from the phone, it will likely delete it 
from iTunes assuming I have synced it. Am I better off downloading books 
directly to my computer where I can place the ones I have read in a particular 
folder? Or, are there other ways to make sure I have a permanent copy of the 
book? Example, is there a place in iTunes where the book is stored such that I 
could make a copy of it?

       

      Thanks much.

       

      Neal

       

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