I use this method in my pc tech support when I have to work before windows 
opens.
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It   
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Søren Jensen 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 3:21 AM
  Subject: Re: BeMyEyes: A ground braking product I'm a part of


  Hi Jonathan.


  Thank you very much.


  A few weeks ago, I did something pretty amazing using Facetime:
  I was able to set up my tv and search for new channels. I held my iphone in 
one hand and my remote in the other, and the sighted person guided me and read 
the menus out loud to me. that took a lot of practice, because it's difficult 
to point at the right spot on the big tv screen, but I got so surprised to see 
that it was even possible to do all that.
  It took a while, but if someone is whilling to help and have the pasions, 
it's really worth it.
  Just an other amazing story about what's possible with video calls. :)

  Best regards:
  Søren Jensen
  Mail & MSN:
  [email protected]
  Website:
  http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ 


  Den 03/05/2013 kl. 22.35 skrev Jonathan Mosen <[email protected]>:


    Hi Søren. I think there is a market for what you're proposing.


    Sometimes, using Vizwiz is time consuming, because you might take a picture 
of the wrong side of a packet, carton or whatever, or perhaps you just didn't 
do a good job of taking the first picture. You have to wait for the first 
response from a web worker, assuming you get one at all, then submit another 
picture.


    TapTapSee is good, but presently you have no means of asking a question to 
accompany your picture, and you can't specify that you want your picture looked 
at by a human when the object recognition engine doesn't give you what you want.


    Having some anonymous means of establishing a video link with a sighted 
person is a great idea. Yes, those of us with family can ask them via Skype or 
FaceTime, but there are those who don't have family to rely on, there are times 
when family aren't available, and there are just times when you don't feel like 
imposing on someone you know.


    I wish you the best of luck with this.

    Jonathan Mosen
    Mosen Consulting
    Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
    http://Mosen.org


    On 3/05/2013, at 3:55 AM, Søren Jensen <[email protected]> wrote:


      Hi.

      So where do you find an app where you can do the following:
      Get the interface in other language than english
      Connect to a network and see who's online, ready to help, speaks your 
language which might not be english and do it all in a video call?
      Vizwiz can't do that, this app is only in english, no video calls which 
means nobody to guide you to get the best picture.
      Facetime is great, but there you are limited to Apples products, and you 
have to call someone you already know.
      Skype, well, I'm having issues on navigating the call screen, and switch 
to the back camera.

      Nice if Vizwiz works for you, but it don't works for all people, because 
people only speak english there, and if the picture isn't good enough, well, 
you have to try again.
      Best regards:
      Søren Jensen
      Mail & MSN:
      [email protected]
      Website:
      http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/

      Den 01/05/2013 kl. 02.41 skrev "Andrew Head" <[email protected]>:


        Vizwiz already does this. You take a photo record a question and it 
uploads
        to a server and volunteers send answers back. 
        This is just my humble opinion, but if you skype or facetime a person 
just
        to get the answer to a question like what can is this or the expiary 
date
        etc, using vizwiz or even a scanning app such as text detective seems 
much
        quicker and more efficient, and if you were to call a stranger ask your
        question and have them answer you probably in less than a minute, seems 
a
        bit pointless use of data and time consumption when there are already 
other
        apps out there.
        I agree when you have sighted family and friends as well as other apps 
I've
        mentioned and others, I personally feel there isn't a need for this one.

        -----Original Message-----
        From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf
        Of John Diakogeorgiou
        Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2013 12:35 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: BeMyEyes: A ground braking product I'm a part of

        Hi:
        Hi:
        Their are people who don't have access to family or friends that can 
help
        them sometimes. However the technology already exists to do what is 
being
        proposed. The idea of using volunteers and Skype or facetime has more
        potential. If people are concerned with privacy and not giving away 
their
        info all they need to do is set up accounts in Skype or email that they
        don't care about.


        On 4/29/13, Lauren Simmons <[email protected]> wrote:

          Hi Ron,

          I realize the following has the probability of coming off as rude; 
          especially as we all just finished discussing this reading 
          comprehension point, but you have lost track of the thread. You might 
          want to slow down your screen reader or take a little more time to 
          carefully read messages. I

          have no association with this project. :)

          LS

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Ron Pelletier" <[email protected]>
          To: <[email protected]>
          Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 6:44 AM
          Subject: RE: BeMyEyes: A ground braking product I'm a part of


          Hi Lauren,

          I think you have a good idea and I would like to make a donation but, 
          I can't bring myself to doing so until you have something more 
concrete.
          Right now you seem to have good plans but they are only plans. Most 
of 
          what you suggest already exists  .  I have no way of knowing if this 
          will ever go to market.

          Ron & Danvers


          -----Original Message-----
          From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
          Behalf Of Roger Frischenmeyer
          Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 7:10 PM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: BeMyEyes: A ground braking product I'm a part of

          Those 2 ideas work very well, if you have family members but if not, 
          they probably don't work well at all. I think this has potintial.
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Lauren Simmons" <[email protected]>
          To: <[email protected]>
          Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:44 PM
          Subject: Re: BeMyEyes: A ground braking product I'm a part of


          For the most part, this already exists, its called Skype. Its also 
          called Facetime. The volunteers are family members. I've been doing a 
          similar thing for years. :)

          LS

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: "Søren Jensen" <[email protected]>
          To: <[email protected]>
          Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 9:16 AM
          Subject: BeMyEyes: A ground braking product I'm a part of


          Hi all.

          I'm involved in this cool project. Read more here:

          Be My Eyes is a non-profit initiative that aims to equip blind with 
"a 
          pair of eyes" which fits into your pocket. This can be done by the 
          blind at any time, on his/her smart phone: you start an application, 
          and can through this be put in direct video connection with a 
          voluntary sighted person. The sighted volunteer helps you through the 
          camera in the blind person's smart phone to see (video transmitted to 
          the helpers smart phone) what the blind person is pointing at with 
the 
          smart phone camera and can solve a given task. The task could, for 
          example. be: Reading the date on a milk carton, see if two socks are 
          alike, read the buttons on the washing machine, etc.
          It
          is the blind who has control over what the volunteer sees, while the 
          volunteer can for example say "a little closer" or "date is on the 
          other side of the milk carton." This way the blind and the sighted 
          volunteer help each other to solve the given task.

          The technical part of the project is, first, to develop an 
application 
          available for the blind that can connect the users with sighted 
          volunteers
          -
          here is so far developed a prototype. The second part is to develop a 
          system on a server that all Be My Eyes will run on. When you create a 
          user account on the system, you could choose whether you are the 
          visual impaired who needs help, or if you are the sighted person who 
          wants to help. The sighted help to be able both to use the system on 
          an iPhone (or other smart phone platforms), an iPad tablet (or other 
          tablet platforms) with a larger screen so it's easier to see the 
image 
          and on a computer where the image is, of course, it depends on the 
          screen connected to the computer.

          The idea is to build a network of volunteers who want to help. You 
can 
          even sign in and out anything useful, and you can specify what time 
of 
          the day or week you have time to help, where you will be notified 
          accordingly. If technology allows, then the visually impaired also 
use 
          the app over 3G and 4G, making the possibilities endless, since in 
          this way you can use the system anywhere. This requires of course 
that 
          as a visually impaired learn some techniques to use the camera 
          properly. The advantage of video interview is that the sighted 
          volunteer can guide one to use the camera properly, which eventually 
          becomes better and better.

          The team behind Be My Eyes is a mixture of blind, partly sighted and 
          sighted people who know the depth of the problems the project to 
          solve. All involved have contributed on a strictly volunteer basis.

          The idea stems from Hans Jørgen Wiberg who himself is visually 
impaired.
          Hans Jørgen works as a visually impaired consultant in the Danish 
          Blind Society. Here he experienced countless times to sighted 
          assistance in a moment would have made the blind able to solve a 
          variety of tasks on their own. When Hans tried video conferencing on 
          his smart phone "dropped the pieces in place" - through a voluntary 
          network could be in the moments when the blind was faced with tasks 
          that required vision, get assistance via video chat on your mobile!

          We are looking for volunteer programmers, visually impaired as 
impaired.
          The
          advantage is that a visually impaired programmer familiar with the 
          challenges of accessibility, and a sighted programmer to help with 
the 
          visual. We are looking for both people who create applications for PC 
          / Mac, iOS and server based systems.

          In order to implement this exciting project, we are also looking for 
          financial help, as all in the team is working volunteer and we need 
          some help outside the company as programmers and such, which is not 
cheap.

          If you want that all this comes true, then you can donate to us on 
          Indiegogo at the following link:
          www.indiegogo.com/projects/be-my-eyes-community-help-for-the-blind

          Read more on our website at:
          http://www.facebook.com/l/0AQHAl41NAQG333R7tdGulVawm-wGyuVVtA68MvtPCYS
          jfg/

          www.bemyeyes.org

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