I think the question here is whether a phone placed in dry rice will dry
faster than just letting it air dry. i didn't see any testing on the
INTERNET that demonstrated this one way or the other. There is tons of
anecdotal evidence on the web though that this works, as well as
recommendations from reputable sources to use dry rice as a natural
desiccant. Since there's no harm in using rice as a natural desiccant,
and since I can't find any evidence one way or the other that it's more
effective than just air drying, and since you can't provide any evidence
that dry rice isn't an effective desiccant, I'll follow the
recommendations of the reputable sources on the web and this list.
Either way I'm not sure why you're making such a big deal about this. No
one is forcing anyone to use dry rice as a desiccant, and you've already
made your opinions known. I think it should just be left to each
individual now as to whether they want to just air dry their wet
electronics or use a desiccant.
On 05/16/2013 09:02 PM, Lauren Simmons wrote:
Uncooked rice might be absorbent if it makes contact with water as one
might expect when he or she cooks rice (one pours water into rice and
the water is eventually soaked up by the rice), but I'm sure one will
find significant drop in effectiveness if there is no direct contact
between water and rice. In short, when you read someone tell a story
regarding rice and their electronics, they may be describing only what
they can see. That is, they saw the rice soak up the water on the
outside of the device (the rice is making direct contact), but the
person probably has no clue that the inside of the phone is still wet
(there is no direct contact with the rice). Your anecdote below only
describes what you personally experienced and not what you
scientifically measured. As a blind person you also did not experience
the experience first hand as someone may have explained the process to
you. ...I guess in all this I'm simply conveying "don't believe
everything you read just because a friend you believe to be credible
told you. (Smile).
LS
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Chittenden"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
I used to work for a company that cleaned up water and water damage. We
used heat and air-flow for minor water dry-outs. When the water damage
was extensive, however, we used desiccants. This was much quicker and
more effective, but you really did not want to have people in the area.
Uncooked rice is extremely absorbent. This makes it an excellent
desiccant for drawing out water from unpowered electronic components. I
have seen, but do not remember the reference websites, various sources
that recommend placing sensitive mobile electronic products in uncooked
rice to help draw water out more quickly.
Whether you do or not, be aware that iOS devices have moisture sensors
near the electronics ports. If these sensors are tripped, much of the
product warranty is void. Apple checks the status of the sensors
whenever a warranty issue product goes in for repair or replacement.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: [email protected]
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 17/05/2013, at 13:11, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't see anyone saying water doesn't evaporate. I also don't see
anyone saying heat doesn't play a factor. The key obviously is to get
the phone as dry as possible as soon as possible. I didn't see
anything on line that proved that using a desiccant is faster than
just air drying, but it makes sense to me that air flow, gentle heat
and a desiccant is all going to help get that phone as dry as possible
as soon as possible. I don't think this is an old wives tale, and I
don't think it just makes us feel like we're taking some action. If
you find any evidence anywhere that desiccants don't aid in the drying
process, I'd be curious to see it.
IMHO, your posts could use a little less sarcasm, and you could
refrain from putting words in people's mouths. You don't need to do
this to make your point.
On 05/16/2013 07:21 PM, Lauren Simmons wrote:
So you're claiming that water "never" evaporates--it must use rice?
Also, what is the mechanism responsible for your claim of "drawing out
moisture?"
...And heat plays no role in evaporation? All news to me.
I have a strong feeling this rice thing is one of those memes so
ingrained into people's minds that they will never let it go. If
anything it might be just a tad more effective than air drying, but
since air drying doesn't make people feel like they have some sort of
scientific insight, people will continue perpetuating what might be a
myth.
LS
---- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Pelletier"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
Hi,
The rice will actually draw out the moisture. Air will not. Air will
only
dry if you have circulation.
Ron &Danvers
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf
Of Lauren Simmons
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 4:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
"...You have to put it in a bag of rice?" So you're telling me that
the only
way moisture will dry is using your technique? Whatever happen to "air
dry."
Maybe I should go out and start looking for large bags of rice for my
children in the event it warms up again and they want to go swimming.
If you want to be very careful simply let the device air dry for a few
days--without rice and all the pseudoscience.
LS
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Schulz" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
that won't do it.
you have to put it in a bag of rice and even sometimes that won't
save it.
Bryan Schulz
----- Original Message ----- From: "Lauren Simmons"
<[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
I would pull the phone out of it's case and let it sit for the next
couple
of days until all water evaporates. If you continue to mess with it
there
might be some water-related battery damage.
LS
----- Original Message ----- From: "Arianna"
<[email protected]>
To: "VIPhone Email List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:28 AM
Subject: Muffled speaker from suspected water damage.
How can I fix this? I had my phone on the edge of the sink, and it
fell
inside while I was washing my hands. I didn't know about it until
later,
when I couldn't find my bone and went into the bathroom to check the
sink. Anyhow, the speaker has been muffled, although the sound coming
through headphones is fine. There wasn't too much water on the
phone or
in it's case, but a little goes a very long way.
Thanks,
Ari
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