Some of the gps apps such as garmin, navigon and Tomtom store their maps on teh device, so they could probably work without a data connection, however, a data connection will make the apps work even better since this is used for searching for places in google for four square. On Jul 5, 2013, at 12:11 PM, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree that many people may not read an app's description or go to the ap's > web site before downloading it, but before publicly claiming that a product > is being falsely marketed, I think you should definitely do this. There's a > big difference between downloading an app and publicly taking the developers > to task for shady marketing. > > He also claimed that most GPS apps don't require a data connection, which > from what I can tell is just blatantly false. Furthermore, he jumps to > conclusions about what would happen to the service if the developer went out > of business. He may have given his reasons for his opinion, but they were > based on piss poor research, false accusations and pure speculation on his > part. I don't have a problem with someone not liking an app, how it's > marketed, it's price or it's payment model, but I do think it's irresponsible > to publicly spread false and misleading information. > > On 07/04/2013 09:43 PM, Joanne Chua wrote: >> Hi there, >> Firstly, i congrets Sendero for the success of developing/creating >> such a gps/map/app for the blind. >> >> F >> First at all, i appreciate everyone opinions and views on this matter. >> I'm not, Agree nor disagree with any side of the arguement. >> The reason why i brought up the email, is to give a different angle of >> the discussion, looking it from different parts of the world, in terms >> of how one can get access, and one may access the app/map/gps >> whichever one fancy to call it. >> >> I think, the original email is not an open fire against Sendero or any >> of the sorts. In Gregg's email, it states very clear why he got such >> opinion and views on the Sendero app/map/gps, and i can understand >> why. >> >> Lets be honest here, how many of us here truely go to the developer >> website and read in details about what the app has to offer before >> purchasing the app? >> >> Just because it is a purpose build app/map/gps for the blind >> therefore, it should have full on 100% praise on the app/map/gps? >> >> I think, it is about time to have more of a constructive discussion as >> to why, and why not, instead of because it is from Sendero, or because >> its purposely build for the blind, thereofre we need to support it, or >> not supporting it. >> >> As someone who traveling a lot, both within Austrlasia and different >> parts of the world, i don't see why Sendero can't include other maps >> in the thing. One would think it will be much easier to include the >> choice of other maps, considering its on subscription base. e.g. North >> American and Europe map for $99 per year, or North America maps only >> for $69, and some other option like if you want to travel from >> Australia to America, and only wish to be there for 32 days, you can >> subscribe to the app for $15 for 30 days or such. >> >> Frankly speaking, what i found with the Sendero arguement, it has >> turning to become Apple vs Freedom Scientific arguement, as some anti >> Apple blind user that could point out, in some other blind list, >> "Freedom Scientific keeps blind people employ therefore i don't see >> why i should support Apple who don't employ blind people". Now, how >> true is that statement? for some blind people they believe that its so >> true that they can't see any alternative but uses Jaws and WindowXP, >> and using Talks with their very old Nokia Phone. >> >> Just my 0.02 sense >> >> Regards >> Joanne >> >> On 05/07/2013, Andrew Head <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Thank you everyone for your positive words on this issue. This was forwarded >>> from an Australian email list. There has been quite a bit of negativity >>> regarding Sendero on that list in the last couple days. >>> I agree with what everyone has said, and have already written to the >>> Australian list, giving a more positive angle. I have nothing but praise the >>> Sendero for providing a great service in providing accessible GPS. >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 05/07/2013, at 6:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Mr. Kearney compares Sendero's strategy with a "Bait and Switch" which is >>>> unfortunate since it only means he has apparently not read the app >>>> description or any information about the app on the Sendero website. As >>>> somebody else pointed out, it clearly states on the Sendero website that >>>> a >>>> subscription is required and this information is also contained in the >>>> app >>>> description. In any case, here is the definition of a Bait and Switch >>>> which >>>> typically applies to retail products, it involves false advertising as >>>> well >>>> as 2 products, one as the bait and one, more expensive one, as the >>>> switch: >>>> >>>> Bait-and-switch is a form of fraud used in retail sales. >>>> first, customers are "baited" by merchants' advertising products or >>>> services >>>> at a low price, but when customers visit the store, they discover that >>>> the >>>> advertised goods are not available, or the customers are pressured by >>>> sales >>>> people to consider similar, but higher priced items ("switching"). >>>> The intention of the bait-and-switch is to encourage purchases of >>>> substituted goods, making consumers satisfied with the available stock >>>> offered, as an alternative to a disappointment or inconvenience of >>>> acquiring >>>> no goods (or bait) at all, and reckoning on a seemingly partial recovery >>>> of >>>> sunk costs expended trying to obtain the bait. It suggests that the >>>> seller >>>> will not show the original product or service advertised but instead will >>>> demonstrate a more expensive product or a similar product with a higher >>>> margin >>>> >>>> I find it unfortunate that so many people have so much bad stuff to say >>>> about a company and a product which most of them haven't even tried and >>>> which has been keenly anticipated by a lot of blind iPhone users. Let's >>>> hope >>>> that we will soon hear testamonies and reviews from people who are >>>> actually >>>> using the app and who point out its good sides for a change. This almost >>>> reminds me of all the bashing of apple that has been going on especiallhy >>>> in >>>> the tech media, it seems every time somebody comes out with something >>>> good >>>> somebody else feels they don't deserve recognition and success. Feedback >>>> and >>>> criticism can also be made in constructive ways which contribute to >>>> improving the product. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Joanne Chua >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google >>> Group. >>> To search the VIPhone public archive, visit >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> >> > > -- > Christopher (CJ) > chaltain at Gmail > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google > Group. > To search the VIPhone public archive, visit > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. 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