Hi all, and thank you so much for the help. My question is going to be a little 
different but still pertains to talking Goggles. Actually it is a couple of 
questions or maybe three and they will be different. I am telling you now, so 
if you want to not read any further you can stop. Smile. I have never really 
used talking Goggles, TapTapSee, or CamFind much. I don't know too much about 
them. So my question is are these. After you let the app see the after you take 
the picture with the app, do you need to put it into an OCR app so that it can 
read it. If so how do I import the picture. Also is it supposed to read more 
than just what the item is what it speaks after you take the picture, and then 
are you supposed to put it in the in the OCR app to read the directions? I am 
sorry for the messed up dictation. I just can't seem to talk. My last question 
is are these apps and specifically talking Goggles since that is what we are 
discussing, supposed to read the instructions on the bags, can't, bottles, 
boxes, etc. Thank you again God bless, wren

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Eileens Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Okay!!! I'm going to put my two sense in, if it means anything. I have also 
> tried this. I take a snap shot of the computer screen when things have gone 
> belly up. I then open up one of my OCR apps such as Prizmo, Text Grabber, or 
> Tex Detector and import the picture into the OCR app of choice. Sometimes, I 
> can get the OCR app to read more then just a few words that Talking Goggle 
> will give me. HTH.
> Eileen
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I have tried anywhere from 3 inches to 2 feet with no success. I think I 
>> should add that I have no problem scanning with apps such as TapTapSee, cam 
>> find and alike, so I think we can rule out user error. Thank you for your 
>> time, but I think this is one of those situations with no easy solution. 
>> Hmm, too bad as an app for reading a computer monitor can prove to be 
>> incredibly useful for blind computer users especially the technician types.
>> 
>> Joseph
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "David Chittenden" <[email protected]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles
>> 
>> 
>> How far are you holding the iPhone from the screen? For a 13 inch laptop, it 
>> should be 6 to 18 inches.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: [email protected]
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 08/08/2013, at 11:40, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have varied as well as setting the resolution as high as possible on my
>>> laptop and I can't get anymore than a few words of gibberish at a time 
>>> with
>>> goggles. When you say you have been successful, please detail what is 
>>> meant
>>> by "successful." Are you getting full reads of the entire screen? Are you
>>> reading sentences at a time? Are you reading word for word? I've also 
>>> tried
>>> cleaning my screens with actual screen cleaning solution and microfiber
>>> cloths and the quality of text read has not improved.
>>> 
>>> Joseph
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Brett" <[email protected]>
>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have been successful reading the screen of my laptop with both Goggles 
>>> and
>>> Text Detective. Goggles in  video mode was the best.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the issue was the large screen, as the camera would have to be
>>> further away to read the larger text and less would fit in the cameras 
>>> view.
>>> 
>>> Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Aug 2013, at 8:55 am, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John, Please convey the specifications of your computer monitor such 
>>>> as
>>>> size and resolution. Finding an app that can help read monitor screens 
>>>> can
>>>> prove to be very helpful to us both when screen readers crash or when
>>>> there
>>>> is a problem at bootup. Using goggles I've yet to get more than 3 words 
>>>> or
>>>> so at a time. To some, I guess technically this would mean goggles is
>>>> reading the screen, but to many others this is still very unusable unless
>>>> one has an incredible amount of time and patience to read 3 words at a
>>>> time.
>>>> I also believe very much that this information can be very useful to 
>>>> those
>>>> who are reading this thread and would like to read error messages on 
>>>> their
>>>> screens but also find goggles is not very effective. Thank you for your
>>>> time
>>>> and patience.
>>>> 
>>>> Joseph
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I haven't tested it with products yet but it does a decent enough job
>>>> at reading the computer screen for me to understand it. So although
>>>> not perfect, it is helpful enough when no sighted help is around.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 8/7/13, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> To add to the information from the user below, I just used goggles to
>>>>> quickly identify a few items, and it identified them correctly: 
>>>>> Cheerios,
>>>>> almonds, wonder bread. There was no more than a second or two delay. I
>>>>> then
>>>>> 
>>>>> tried goggles on a can of soda and it failed pretty miserably. I then
>>>>> launched TapTapSee and it identified the can of 7Up for 3 out of the 4
>>>>> pictures I took. The picture it identified correctly, in TapTapSee's
>>>>> defense, it did say the can was green as is the case with 7Up cans. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Joseph
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Sieghard
>>>>> Weitzel" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:21 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: Talking Goggles
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Tom,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just tried the Talking Goggles update on my 4S and for the first item,
>>>>> a
>>>>> bag of rice, the app came back almost instantly with "Jasmin Rice". I
>>>>> tried
>>>>> a few more things like 2 different bottles of vinegar and the app
>>>>> performed
>>>>> some OCR and read the result and for me it's definitely working. All of
>>>>> this
>>>>> was done in video mode which I prefer for Talking Goggles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did also perform one comparison test by taking a picture of the bottle
>>>>> of
>>>>> white wine vinegar in still camera mode with Talking Goggles and it read
>>>>> a
>>>>> bunch of stuff including "wine vinegar". I then took the same picture
>>>>> with
>>>>> Tap Tap See and got "Wine Vinegar" without the other stuff. A bit 
>>>>> earlier
>>>>> I
>>>>> used Tap Tap See on that same bottle and got the full "White Vine
>>>>> Vinegar",
>>>>> I guess it too recognizes slightly different things based on exactly 
>>>>> what
>>>>> it
>>>>> sees.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> As to why Talking Goggles doesn't work for you I can't say, but it would
>>>>> be
>>>>> good to know if you have Tap Tap See to do a similar test. Hold your
>>>>> phone
>>>>> in as close as possible the same place and take a picture of something
>>>>> with
>>>>> both apps and see if you get a result from Tap Tap See and not from
>>>>> Goggles.
>>>>> If you don't get a result from either one then you know that something
>>>>> else
>>>>> is at fault and you might want sighted help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had a problem in March where suddenly Digit-Eyes recognized absolutely
>>>>> nothing. I finally asked one of my employees to take a look and try it
>>>>> and
>>>>> he told me that the picture was all blurry and the camera didn't focus. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> called Apple and after making sure the lens was clean which it was, 
>>>>> doing
>>>>> a
>>>>> restart of the phone and eventually a factory reset of iOS they said 
>>>>> that
>>>>> apparently the camera was not working as it should. I had the phone for
>>>>> about a year and a half at that point, but I bought Apple Care back when
>>>>> I
>>>>> bought the 4S as an unlocked phone directly from Apple and 3 days later 
>>>>> I
>>>>> had a new phone. Well, I guess probably a refurbished phone, but a
>>>>> like-new
>>>>> phone anyways. Apple provided the return label in the box and all I did
>>>>> is
>>>>> take the new phone out of the box, put my old one in it (after doing a
>>>>> factory restore again to wipe it clean) and call UPS to pick it up. I 
>>>>> was
>>>>> definitely glad I had purchased Apple care since otherwise I would have
>>>>> been
>>>>> 6 months past my warranty period.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sieghard
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Tom Lange
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:40 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I uninstalled and reinstalled the app as someone suggested recently and
>>>>> noticed no appreciable improvement.  With the older version I'd get a
>>>>> response in a matter of a few seconds or so, but not with this one.  .
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Eileens Misrahi <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:29 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> fello,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The responsiveness of Talking Goggles has been inconsistent. Hwever, I
>>>>> have
>>>>> gotten it to tell me something I don't know and identify a product or
>>>>> words
>>>>> on my PC. I haven't figured out why at times the results will take
>>>>> several
>>>>> minutes for it to speak. I am grateful that the app is functioning to a
>>>>> degree. May be others can pipe in and report on their use of the app. :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eileen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Tom Lange <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know why, but even after updating the app this morning I'm not
>>>>> getting anything useful from the app.  Not a peep out of it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Lea Langley <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cc:  <mailto:[email protected]%3e> <[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:05 PM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, if you have talking Goggles on your phone, and if you go to the app
>>>>> store and select updates, hopefully it will show you the new update that
>>>>> is
>>>>> there. It was just recently updated. I think maybe yesterday or the day
>>>>> before. Sorry I can't remember. God bless, wren
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:54 AM, "Rizzino, Bonnie" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Search for goggles.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of Sharon
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:31 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Talking Goggles
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was wondering if Talking Goggles has been taken out of the app store? 
>>>>> I
>>>>> was telling someone about the program and they couldn't find it, so I
>>>>> went
>>>>> looking for it in the app store and I couldn't find it either. Thanks 
>>>>> for
>>>>> the help.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>> 
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