Hi Wren, Any of the apps you mentioned, Tap Tap See, Talking Goggles and Cam Find do their own recognition. Talking Goggles will do actual OCR and it uses Google services a lot but I don't know exactly what all is done by Google behind the scenes since I am more interested in results rather then how they come about. Tap Tap See as far as I know does not perform OCR, but it uses crowd sourcing which means an actual person may get to see your picture and return the result. Tap Tap See will recognize logos, packages and so on, but also can describe pictures with some success or even a T-Shirt with a print or word on it. I have a fairly large, framed painting of a mountain landscape with sky and an eagle. When I took a picture of that Tap Tap See came back and said "Painting with mountain and flying eagle". It can also import pictures from your camera roll and give a description and some people have reported it is quite good at colour identification as well. I took a picture of a T-Shirt the other day and it came back and said "Blue Jack Wolfskin T-Shirt" which ended up being correct even though I had totally forgotten I still had a Jack Wolfskin T-Shirt (for those who don't know, Jack Wolfskin is about as popular a brand in Germany and other European countries as North Face is in the US and Canada) I have Cam Find on my phone, but haven't hardly used it so I can't say much about.
As a conclusion I would say that Tap Tap See is almost a must-have for any blind iPhone user. I think next on your list should be Talking goggles since it can do OCR (not full pages, but bits of it), but I was able to read parts of labels on bottles, drugs like on Tylonol and so on. The good thing is that Tap Tap See is free and Talking Goggles is only 99 Cents, absolutely no reason not to grab the first and the second won't break the bank, either. OK, and lastly, 4 examples of what Tap Tap See gave me when I told it to recognize the same picture in my camera roll. I took the picture off my deck and what you see when you look that direction is the side of my house, at the end of it mounted up high my satellite dish and about 10 feet from the house is the trunk of my cherry tree which covers pretty much the entire 20 or 25 feet between my house and the fence to my neighbour's property. So, here is what Tap Tap See told me: 1. Bell ExpressVue Satellite Dish - this is absolutely and totally accurate 2. Green leaves 3. Outside satellite dish 4. Grey satellite dish As I said, these results are not different because of different lighting or me pointing the phone ever so slightly in a different direction, I took one picture and ran it through Tap Tap See 4 times right one time after the other. To me this screams crowd sourcing with different people focusing on different things with 3 out of 4 noticing the satellite dish. Nobody, however, said Cherry Tree although the tree is currently full of cherries which from what a sighted friend told me are easily visible. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lea Langley Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 7:32 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Talking Goggles Hi all, and thank you so much for the help. My question is going to be a little different but still pertains to talking Goggles. Actually it is a couple of questions or maybe three and they will be different. I am telling you now, so if you want to not read any further you can stop. Smile. I have never really used talking Goggles, TapTapSee, or CamFind much. I don't know too much about them. So my question is are these. After you let the app see the after you take the picture with the app, do you need to put it into an OCR app so that it can read it. If so how do I import the picture. Also is it supposed to read more than just what the item is what it speaks after you take the picture, and then are you supposed to put it in the in the OCR app to read the directions? I am sorry for the messed up dictation. I just can't seem to talk. My last question is are these apps and specifically talking Goggles since that is what we are discussing, supposed to read the instructions on the bags, can't, bottles, boxes, etc. Thank you again God bless, wren Sent from my iPhone On Aug 7, 2013, at 7:18 PM, Eileens Misrahi <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay!!! I'm going to put my two sense in, if it means anything. I have also tried this. I take a snap shot of the computer screen when things have gone belly up. I then open up one of my OCR apps such as Prizmo, Text Grabber, or Tex Detector and import the picture into the OCR app of choice. Sometimes, I can get the OCR app to read more then just a few words that Talking Goggle will give me. HTH. > Eileen > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 7, 2013, at 5:00 PM, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I have tried anywhere from 3 inches to 2 feet with no success. I >> think I should add that I have no problem scanning with apps such as >> TapTapSee, cam find and alike, so I think we can rule out user error. >> Thank you for your time, but I think this is one of those situations with no easy solution. >> Hmm, too bad as an app for reading a computer monitor can prove to be >> incredibly useful for blind computer users especially the technician types. >> >> Joseph >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "David Chittenden" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:44 PM >> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles >> >> >> How far are you holding the iPhone from the screen? For a 13 inch >> laptop, it should be 6 to 18 inches. >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: [email protected] >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 08/08/2013, at 11:40, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have varied as well as setting the resolution as high as possible >>> on my laptop and I can't get anymore than a few words of gibberish >>> at a time with goggles. When you say you have been successful, >>> please detail what is meant by "successful." Are you getting full >>> reads of the entire screen? Are you reading sentences at a time? Are >>> you reading word for word? I've also tried cleaning my screens with >>> actual screen cleaning solution and microfiber cloths and the >>> quality of text read has not improved. >>> >>> Joseph >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Brett" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 4:11 PM >>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have been successful reading the screen of my laptop with both >>> Goggles and Text Detective. Goggles in video mode was the best. >>> >>> Perhaps the issue was the large screen, as the camera would have to >>> be further away to read the larger text and less would fit in the >>> cameras view. >>> >>> Sent with Siri from Brett's iPhone >>> >>>> On 8 Aug 2013, at 8:55 am, Joseph FreeTech >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi John, Please convey the specifications of your computer monitor >>>> such as size and resolution. Finding an app that can help read >>>> monitor screens can prove to be very helpful to us both when screen >>>> readers crash or when there is a problem at bootup. Using goggles >>>> I've yet to get more than 3 words or so at a time. To some, I guess >>>> technically this would mean goggles is reading the screen, but to >>>> many others this is still very unusable unless one has an >>>> incredible amount of time and patience to read 3 words at a time. >>>> I also believe very much that this information can be very useful >>>> to those who are reading this thread and would like to read error >>>> messages on their screens but also find goggles is not very >>>> effective. Thank you for your time and patience. >>>> >>>> Joseph >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "John Diakogeorgiou" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 10:12 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles >>>> >>>> >>>> I haven't tested it with products yet but it does a decent enough >>>> job at reading the computer screen for me to understand it. So >>>> although not perfect, it is helpful enough when no sighted help is around. >>>> >>>>> On 8/7/13, Joseph FreeTech <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> To add to the information from the user below, I just used goggles >>>>> to quickly identify a few items, and it identified them correctly: >>>>> Cheerios, >>>>> almonds, wonder bread. There was no more than a second or two >>>>> delay. I then >>>>> >>>>> tried goggles on a can of soda and it failed pretty miserably. I >>>>> then launched TapTapSee and it identified the can of 7Up for 3 out >>>>> of the 4 pictures I took. The picture it identified correctly, in >>>>> TapTapSee's defense, it did say the can was green as is the case >>>>> with 7Up cans. :) >>>>> >>>>> Joseph >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Sieghard >>>>> Weitzel" <[email protected]> >>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:21 PM >>>>> Subject: RE: Talking Goggles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just tried the Talking Goggles update on my 4S and for the first >>>>> item, a bag of rice, the app came back almost instantly with >>>>> "Jasmin Rice". I tried a few more things like 2 different bottles >>>>> of vinegar and the app performed some OCR and read the result and >>>>> for me it's definitely working. All of this was done in video mode >>>>> which I prefer for Talking Goggles. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did also perform one comparison test by taking a picture of the >>>>> bottle of white wine vinegar in still camera mode with Talking >>>>> Goggles and it read a bunch of stuff including "wine vinegar". I >>>>> then took the same picture with Tap Tap See and got "Wine Vinegar" >>>>> without the other stuff. A bit earlier I used Tap Tap See on that >>>>> same bottle and got the full "White Vine Vinegar", I guess it too >>>>> recognizes slightly different things based on exactly what it >>>>> sees. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As to why Talking Goggles doesn't work for you I can't say, but it >>>>> would be good to know if you have Tap Tap See to do a similar >>>>> test. Hold your phone in as close as possible the same place and >>>>> take a picture of something with both apps and see if you get a >>>>> result from Tap Tap See and not from Goggles. >>>>> If you don't get a result from either one then you know that >>>>> something else is at fault and you might want sighted help. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I had a problem in March where suddenly Digit-Eyes recognized >>>>> absolutely nothing. I finally asked one of my employees to take a >>>>> look and try it and he told me that the picture was all blurry and >>>>> the camera didn't focus. >>>>> I >>>>> called Apple and after making sure the lens was clean which it >>>>> was, doing a restart of the phone and eventually a factory reset >>>>> of iOS they said that apparently the camera was not working as it >>>>> should. I had the phone for about a year and a half at that point, >>>>> but I bought Apple Care back when I bought the 4S as an unlocked >>>>> phone directly from Apple and 3 days later I had a new phone. >>>>> Well, I guess probably a refurbished phone, but a like-new phone >>>>> anyways. Apple provided the return label in the box and all I did >>>>> is take the new phone out of the box, put my old one in it (after >>>>> doing a factory restore again to wipe it clean) and call UPS to >>>>> pick it up. I was definitely glad I had purchased Apple care since >>>>> otherwise I would have been >>>>> 6 months past my warranty period. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Sieghard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> On Behalf Of Tom Lange >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:40 PM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I uninstalled and reinstalled the app as someone suggested >>>>> recently and noticed no appreciable improvement. With the older >>>>> version I'd get a response in a matter of a few seconds or so, but not with this one. . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: Eileens Misrahi <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 9:29 PM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> fello, >>>>> >>>>> The responsiveness of Talking Goggles has been inconsistent. >>>>> Hwever, I have gotten it to tell me something I don't know and >>>>> identify a product or words on my PC. I haven't figured out why at >>>>> times the results will take several minutes for it to speak. I am >>>>> grateful that the app is functioning to a degree. May be others >>>>> can pipe in and report on their use of the app. :) >>>>> >>>>> Eileen >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 8:47 PM, Tom Lange <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I don't know why, but even after updating the app this morning I'm >>>>> not getting anything useful from the app. Not a peep out of it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> >>>>> From: Lea Langley <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Cc: <mailto:[email protected]%3e> >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 2:05 PM >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: Talking Goggles >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, if you have talking Goggles on your phone, and if you go to >>>>> the app store and select updates, hopefully it will show you the >>>>> new update that is there. It was just recently updated. I think >>>>> maybe yesterday or the day before. Sorry I can't remember. God >>>>> bless, wren >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2013, at 6:54 AM, "Rizzino, Bonnie" >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Search for goggles. >>>>> >>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> On Behalf Of Sharon >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 6:31 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Talking Goggles >>>>> >>>>> Hi all, >>>>> >>>>> I was wondering if Talking Goggles has been taken out of the app store? >>>>> I >>>>> was telling someone about the program and they couldn't find it, >>>>> so I went looking for it in the app store and I couldn't find it >>>>> either. 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