unless you have a 3gs the other person at the other end of the phone cannot hear your texts etc.

-----Original Message----- From: Kirsten Edmondson
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 5:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alerts during a call?



Am I the only person who remembers a time when an alert sound would sound but voice-over did not read out the message while you were in a call? Perhaps there was some ability to do this which now does not exist, I think though that it was just the way things worked back then, whenever then is that I remember. Am I also the only person who, whilst in a call, does not seem to be able to get triple home to work to turn voice-over off, even though it will do it in every other time. Often, I cannot turn speech off with the finger gesture either. My phone when I take it away from my ear, does a funny click buzz clunk sound and therefore does not do the usual thing. I seem to remember that this was an issue with iOS six…? That people have complained on this list in the past that they cannot turn voice-over off while on a call. I am not talking about turning it off permanently, I am talking about stopping it Reading alerts. And I totally agree with the likes of Sieghard ETC, that there should be a setting in the settings which asks you whether you whether you would like it to read out an alert during a call. I don't have a problem with this at any other time, but I was leaving a voicemail for somebody last week and I could not stop it, even by tapping the screen as you would normally, from reading out the entire, very long, text message while I was trying to leave my voicemail. This meant the person on the other end, to whom I was leaving a message, also heard my text message which might be personal to me or even been about them! why is that fair? Why can there not be an option to turn off? No one else has that issue. I love voice over. But as I said, I'm pretty certain it didn't always do this. It is only recently this has started to annoy me so I find it very interesting that someone else has brought up on the list at the very time I am thinking about it and have been thinking about emailing Apple. I'm glad to know that others have done so before me. I am not so glad that like so many other things, Apple have not been able to fix it yet.
I shall write imminently.
Kirsten

Sent from my iPhone

On 12 Aug 2013, at 08:22, Robert Doc Wright <[email protected]> wrote:

ok, you would like voiceover to drop its volume while you're in a call but
you don't want it off in case you need to look up something during the call. Are you wanting some sort of gesture to let voiceover know that you need it
during the call or should this be a siri feature?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 10:59 PM
Subject: RE: Alerts during a call?


HiChuck,

Of course I want Voiceover to announce who is calling, but as soon as I
answer the call I'd like it to shut up. Turning off speech is a work-around and it's OK as far as it goes, but as I said, if I am out and about I either have my Bluetooth earpieceor the Apple Earpods hanging around my neck and I
answer calls that way without ever touching the phone and if it's tucked
away then having to turn off speech is not convenient. There are of course
also those cases where I need speech to be on because maybe I need to look
up a phone number while I am on a call or check something else. As I said, I
am fully aware of the work-arounds, but just because I found an often
inconvenient fix for a problem doesn't mean it's a solution and that the
problem should not be addressed.
I also can say for sure that from the responses I read in previous
discussions there are way more people who like Tess, Donna, myself and
others feel this is an annoying issue as opposed to the few who said they
like it the way it is. I think it's OK to hear whatever sound an incoming
email, text or push notification makes and if I am really so desperate to
know while I am still talking on the phone who emailed or texted me, then I
can open mail, messages or the notification centre and check. Otherwise I
can concentrate on who I am talking to and once I am done I can check what
happened while I was on the phone.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 9:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alerts during a call?

Personally I like voice over announcing the caller ID information before I
answer a call. Then I do a three finger double tap to silence voice over and
then a two finger double tap to answer the call. Its no big deal for me.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Aug 11, 2013, at 9:31 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Tessa, Donna, Jodie, Andy and others,

This is one of the most annoying characteristics of Voiceover and I
hope that all of you who dislike this as much as me write to
[email protected] to request that in some future update  Voiceover
is just silenced when a call is active. Andy's suggestion to
turn off push notifications to me is something I should not have to
do, I have an iPhone and use apps which have push notifications
because that is what I want and having to turn off all push
notifications just so my phone calls aren't interrupted is equivalent
to saying you have to turn off WiFi, Bluetooth, Push email and
location services just so I can get better battery life. I don't need
a fancy smartphone if I have to disable half its features to stop it from
doing one annoying thing.

This discussion has come up before and I know some people have argued
in favour of all of this chatter happening although I really don't
know why somebody would want their phone to start reading a text
message, an email or a news headline while one is on a phone call.
When this happens to me I sometimes have to ask the other party to
hold on for a moment until Voiceover shuts up or I can shut it up because
I can't hear them any more.
The iPhone is after all also a cell phone and while some people may
use it more for other stuff than actual calling, for me it is my only
personal line and I also use it for my business so I do receive and
make a lot of calls and I really hope that maybe in iOS 7 Apple has done
something about this.
In my opinion Voiceover should just be quiet during a call, but I
guess it would be OK if at least there was a setting where one could
enable this and that way those who like to hear all of this stuff
while they are on the phone can continue to do so. The same goes for
Voiceover constantly announcing the call duration, also annoying and
completely unnecessary, if I want to check how long I have been on the
phone I can easily touch the screen and check and I don't have to hear
it every 20 or 30 seconds. I understand that I can turn speech off
with a 3-finger double tap and I sometimes do that, but it's a major
pain in the winter when my iPhone is in my pocket or belt clip under a
heavy coat and I am wearing gloves.


Regards,

Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 7:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alerts during a call?

You can go into Settings, Notifications, and shut off the push
notifications

that bother you. That's what I have done.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: Donna
Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2013 4:10 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Alerts during a call?

Yeah, I know whatcha mean, receive no alerts, get an important phone
call and the alerts come in numbers!!

I use the 3 finger double tap to turn off voiceover. For me this is
faster and less interruptive when in a call.

Donna

On Aug 11, 2013, at 6:16 PM, "Tessa" <[email protected]> wrote:

Hi<
How do I stop an alert from speaking when I'm taking a phone call.
For example when one of my facebook friends posts something the phone
lets me know but it often happens when I'm in a call and I can't seem
to turn it off without turning off the alert feature, unless I'm
missing something which is entirely possible. I know when my clock
chimes hitting the volume button stops the sound, but it doesn't do
much for facebook and alerts like that.
Any suggestions.
Thanks all
Tessa

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