It will not install itself, ever. It is up to the user to install the software 
upgrade.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 27 Sep 2013, at 9:25, Dan Murphy <danmin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well my GF didn't even actively download the update. It just said "settings, 
> 1 item. When we looked, we discovered that it had been downloaded at some 
> point, perhaps when her phone was idle. I wonder how much longer it would 
> have just sat there before it went ahead and installed itself. Apple should 
> be a bit more careful doing stuff like that to people.
> 
> SENT FROM MY IPHONE
> 
> 
>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have no problem with legacy software not being supported after a time. 
>> It's the extra space that automatically-downloaded stuff takes up on the 
>> device that makes me a bit uncomfortable. As i pointed out somewhere else, I 
>> first had to download IoS7 and then install it. There was no "automatic" 
>> factor in my experience. however, if folks are getting automatic 3-gig 
>> downloads without asking for them, then it leads me to wonder if there's a 
>> setting that one could disable for doing this.
>> 
>> Teresa
>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> except you're not actually being forced to update Windows XP. You can run 
>>> it forever, you just won't get support from Microsoft for it. I don't think 
>>> that's unreasonable since XP is so old and MS has released three major 
>>> operating system versions since XP. Also, you were still getting support 
>>> and updates for XP after Vista was released, after Windows 7 was released 
>>> and even after Windows 8 was released. I still think it's a bad comparison, 
>>> but that's just my opinion, and I don't expect to change anyone's mind, so 
>>> I'll shut up about it.
>>> 
>>>> On 09/26/2013 02:52 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I think its a decent comparison since desktop OS’s don’t update nearly the 
>>>> speed of a Mobile OS.  And either way, the feeling is the same.  That’s 
>>>> what the issue really is here.  Your hand being forced to adopt a 
>>>> technology you might not really want.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quite a few people are upset with Microsoft for dropping support of 
>>>>> windows XP. Also, Microsoft dropping support for an operating system over 
>>>>> a decade old is not the same issue as Apple pushing out an OS that's only 
>>>>> a few days old to everyone's iPhone. Note that I don't have a problem 
>>>>> with Apple; I'm just pointing out that this is not a good comparison.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 09/26/2013 02:19 PM, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:
>>>>>> I agree with Ricardo. I don't hear people bashing Microsoft for not
>>>>>> supporting Windows XP in the next few months or other old software.
>>>>>> Also most apps have been updated to work with IOS 7. Finally if you
>>>>>> consider the traffic regarding bugs and questions a large part exists
>>>>>> because people don't read others email which has already answered
>>>>>> their question. I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want to update since
>>>>>> overall IOS 7 is better but that's a matter of choice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/26/13, Sean Paul <newsandtraf...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Nicely done Mr. Walker... Couldn't have said it better myself. Life is 
>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> & we've gotta live it. We'll be forced to do things we don't want to do 
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>> Apple, the Government, Microsoft, our neighborhoods, etc.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Ricardo Walker" <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "viphone" <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 15:10
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Not trying to be confrontational but, people force you to do stuff like 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> all the time.  For example, if you want IOS 7 but have an iPhone 3GS?  
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>> have to at least get your hands on an iPhone 4.  You might love your 
>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>> but, you want that new update so you get a new phone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or how about internet explorer 10.  You want to have access to certain 
>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>> sites, your still using Windows XP?  You either update tow windows 7 or 
>>>>>>> 8,
>>>>>>> or try to use another web browser.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is really nothing new.  The more people that are running the same 
>>>>>>> OS
>>>>>>> or, using the same hardware, makes it easier for developers to push out
>>>>>>> updates and new content.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sure, in some cases its a straight money grab.  Other times, companies 
>>>>>>> force
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the issue because they don’t want to support old hardware/software 
>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Or, they’re trying to create a more unified experience among their 
>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> JMO.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:33 PM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree, this is absolutely not right. Nobody makes me do anything I 
>>>>>>>> dont'
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> want to do, especially something like this.
>>>>>>>> If this kind of dictitorial behavior keeps up I'm going to get rid of 
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>> Patti
>>>>>>>>> On 9/26/2013 11:45 AM, Regina Alvarado wrote:
>>>>>>>>> If this is true, there are going to be some court challenges I bet. 
>>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> is not right in my opinion.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> reggie and Allegra
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> For those of you who want/need to stay on iOS 6 for whatever reason, I
>>>>>>>>> come with some bad news.
>>>>>>>>> According to an article I’ll link to below, Apple is pushing the OTA
>>>>>>>>> update to 7 automatically to devices that don’t have 7 installed yet,
>>>>>>>>> with no user consent, and no way to reclaim the lost storage space the
>>>>>>>>> update uses when downloaded.
>>>>>>>>> http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices
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