I was a happy JAWS user right up until I left windows behind for the most part and went to Windows. I think it was JAWS 9 or JAWS 10 that was mostly a bug fixing and stability improving release. IMHO, this version was the best version of JAWS I ran, with it's support for modern versions of MS Office, 64-bit Windows and so on. New features are obviously a priority, just as they are for IOS and Apple. How many times did I see IOS 6 and the iPhone 5 bashed for not having enough features in it and not being innovative enough. You have to have enough new features in an upgrade for people to want to pay for the upgrade. FS is trying to make a profit, and that may not be a model many people like, but it's the model FS is stuck with.

I know bashing other screen readers and platforms is pretty popular, but IMHO, it's off topic for this list.

On 09/28/2013 03:42 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
Well, hopefully you don't use JAWS. I think that the best version of
JAWS was 3.7u, and it went downhill after that. Can't say much better
for Window Eyes. Quite often, added features are a higher priority than
stability. That's sad, but true.

Andy


-----Original Message----- From: Aman Singer
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi, Sieghard and all.
I don't think that iOS 7 is particularly bad, but that isn't, IMHO,
the standard I would judge it on. The only reason to upgrade, at least for
me, is that the upgrade will be better than what came before. If it's
better, and I mean better on the whole, taking everything into account,
then
it's worth the upgrade no matter what bugs are in the system. The bugs just
reduce the quality, if other things raise it, the update is fine. As it
stands, I think the question is whether iOS 7 is better for any particular
user than iOS 6.x. That's something each user will have to determine for
himself, and it's something which is specific to him. That is, iOS 7 is
worth the upgrade to me because things work better with my Bluetooth to
hearing aid bridge. For someone who doesn't use such a bridge but who's
like
me in everything else, it may not be worth it. For someone who hates the
old
app switcher, it may be great, and for someone who loves the way mail is
displayed in the old mail program it may be horrible... You get the idea.
Aman
--Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Well, I just have a complain about Ios 7. It makes my iPhone 4, a old
iPhone
of 16Gb, a little bit slow. Also, some times I try to open apps, and they
just doesn't open, and I guess is it because the Ios 7 is too heavy for the
processor of my old iPhone 4.
But in my iPhone 5, it works much better, and the slow thing  that I
feel in
my iPhone 4, is imperceptible. Also, the last update, fixed the issue
that I
had with the time, or it is that I am feeling so far. Also I have to  say
that Ios 7 brought  many new things, things that will be so helpful for us
using voice over, and every body who uses Ios 7.



--
Christopher (CJ)
chaltain at Gmail

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