Hi,

Oh! I love the new app switcher.  Anything that requires me to do less screen 
taps and gestures is a good thing in my opinion.  The new app switcher is way 
more efficient.  It be even better if they change that home issue I was talking 
about earlier in the thread.

Ricardo Walker
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www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:43 AM, Rose Combs <[email protected]> wrote:

> Maybe I am being stupid but when I see that home button with nothing else
> left on the screen I press the real button, on the bottom part of my
> devices, never thought about pressing the one on screen.  
> 
> I am getting used to the current setup but can't say it is my favorite thing
> in IOS 7.  Some of the features that are supposed to be new, in fact seem
> like eye candy to me.  I am on a 4S which may make some difference, but no
> immediate plans to upgrade today.  
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 12:26 AM
> To: viphone
> Subject: Re: App Switcher [was "Re: iOS 7, thoughts?"]
> 
> Hi,
> 
> All you said is true.  But, that's not what I was getting at.  I was saying,
> why have the home screen as an option when all other apps have been close?
> Just close the switcher automatically instead on displaying the homescreen
> in the app switcher.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> [email protected]
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Joanne Chua <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Not all user want to close all apps on appswitcher in a given time.
>> Say you have 4 apps running at the same time, you might want to close
>> 2 apps out of 4 apps, and move between the other two. Not only that, 
>> you might want to run 1 or 2 apps, you can then use the Home screen on 
>> app switcher and open another app instead of going on the home screen, 
>> then back to the app switcher.
>> In fact, the visual representation for apps on app switcher is totally 
>> different from iOS 6.
>> 
>> On 01/10/2013, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> You're right! Didn't think about that. :)
>>> 
>>> Very good point and I agree with you.
>>> 
>>> I wonder if this is a case of the switcher being different for VO 
>>> users or not. Now you've got me curious.
>>> 
>>> Will be exploring this with sighted friends.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and have a good night!
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> But why have a visual representation at all when all other apps have 
>>> been closed?  The app switcher in my opinion, should just close 
>>> automatically and go to the home screen since that is the only action
> left to perform.
>>> 
>>> For example, I have 2 apps running.  in the app switcher, I will see 
>>> the 2 apps plus the home screen.  Cool.  But, once I've close those 2 
>>> apps, there is absolutely no function left to the app switcher but to 
>>> close it and return to the home screen.  So, why then force the user 
>>> to perform a gesture or, press the physical home button when its a 
>>> logical inevitability that that is the next action the user will do?  
>>> This looks to me like a hold over from IOS 6 that is no longer needed 
>>> in IOS 7.  Remember, In IOS 6, although all apps were closed from the 
>>> switcher, there was still a large list of things a person could still 
>>> do.  Play/pause music, lock/unlock orientation, etc.  But this is no 
>>> longer the case in IOS 7 since all these features have been moved to
> control center.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> [email protected]
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 1:16 AM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> HI Ricardo,
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps, but I think in this case it is analogous to the area on the 
>>>> screen where you could tap to dismiss the switcher in iOS 6.
>>>> 
>>>> I think the Home option is an obvious way that sighted users can 
>>>> dismiss the switcher, since there is no analogous gesture to the 
>>>> scrub that I know of.
>>>> 
>>>> Not sure what this one looks like on the screen. Will need to ask 
>>>> someone.
>>>> 
>>>> Interesting discussion!
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Cara :)
>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Ricardo Walker <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Cara,
>>>> 
>>>> I wondered, why even have home as an option, when you've cleared all 
>>>> the other apps from the switcher?  I mean, since you can't close 
>>>> home, why bother having it as the last available option since 
>>>> obviously, all the person can do is go to their home screen from 
>>>> that point.  lol.  I think home shouldn't even be an option in the 
>>>> app switcher.  Its border line ridiculous.
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 12:06 PM, Cara Quinn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> HI Christopher,
>>>>> 
>>>>> For what it's worth, I too find the focus going to Home rather than 
>>>>> to the next app in the switcher.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great day!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cara :)
>>>>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just double checked, and this works fine for me. I just do a 
>>>>> three finger swipe up, I hear a message that the app is closing, 
>>>>> and the next app now has focus. I can just keep doing a three 
>>>>> finger swipe up and never have to swipe to the left or the right. I 
>>>>> wonder why it works for me but not for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that I don't think discussing the different features of IOS 7 
>>>>> or the iPhone in general, debating their relative pros and cons and 
>>>>> reporting issues and suggestions to Apple to make the iPhone a 
>>>>> better experience for the blind is complaining. I hope the below 
>>>>> message doesn't keep anyone from discussing anything here on the list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/30/2013 07:39 AM, Joanne Chua wrote:
>>>>>> In conclusion, we, as human just lazy. We lazy to swipe around, 
>>>>>> and we lazy to adapt to change. We are not, however lazy to 
>>>>>> complain. We like to complain about everthing, and anything. from 
>>>>>> the most tiny bug and problem...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joanne Chua
>>>>>> The flip side of Inclusion is Exclusion.
>>>>>> Leaders For Tomorrow 2013 Candidate Send from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 30 Sep 2013, at 21:45, "Rose Combs" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does not seem to work that way for me, I have to focus on the app 
>>>>>>> to close it regardless and finding them is sometimes a problem, 
>>>>>>> plus the home app won't close but shows up so it can be confusing 
>>>>>>> if one is doing this late at night or early in the morning when 
>>>>>>> not functioning on all four cylinders.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:17 PM
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: iOS 7, thoughts?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by having to swipe through apps to 
>>>>>>> close them.
>>>>>>> Once you do a three finger swipe up to close an app, the next app 
>>>>>>> gets focus, so you just need to do another three finger swipe up 
>>>>>>> to remove that app. Once you start doing the three finger swipe 
>>>>>>> up, or the double tap after changing the action item to remove, 
>>>>>>> you don't need to swipe to the next app in the App Switcher. This 
>>>>>>> is the same as how the App Switcher worked in IOS 6.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 09/28/2013 11:14 PM, BBS wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi. Yes, I think the app switcher is cool although I was 
>>>>>>>> confused as to how it worked the first time and then I learned 
>>>>>>>> that you have to swipe through apps if you want to close them. I 
>>>>>>>> have a question about that though. I remember in older versions 
>>>>>>>> of iOS that you can lock orientation through the app switcher. How
> do you do that now in iOS7?
>>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>>> Sent From My White MacBook
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