For me, what I get from Siri with VoiceOver on or not on seems to be quite
random. I can ask it the same question with and without VoiceOver and there
doesn't seem to be a difference. The difference is the time of day when I
ask the question, and this depends on a lot of things. Sometimes when I ask
for temperature, I will hear the temperature in madison is X. Sometimes, I
will simply hear the temperature. So the answer to the same question can
change and it seems, at least for me, that it is not voiceover specific.

Neal


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Siri's performance in IOS7

Hi Chris and others,

I have seen a lot of people reporting that apparently for them SIRI works
better if Voiceover is turned off. While SIRI sometimes tells me it can't
take a request or do something, usually it works as it should when it does
things.

Anyhow, I was wondering if anybody has actually taken the time to document
this behavior in detail and submitted it to [email protected] which
should be the first thing that comes to mind if something doesn't work and
seems to be so because of Voiceover.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 12:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7

Thanks.
i know what might have happened.
if i turn VoiceOver off Siri works well and all the way through.
but if i turn VoiceOver on Siri works part way through then die.


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On 01/10/2013 17:50, Eric Whitten wrote:
> Siri works better then it did on Ios6. I have a 4s
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:27 AM, Chris H <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hello all
> when i asked where the nearest mcdonalds was, all was well until i 
> asked
to give me directions. then it stopped dead so had to lock the screen. any
ideas?
>
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>
>> On 01/10/2013 15:53, Brian Moore wrote:
>> yeah, having some of the same issues. sometimes I get feedback and 
>> sometimes I don't.
>>
>> maybe this is a 4s thing but it seemed to work better before the 7.02 
>> upgrade.
>> Brian.
>>
>> Contact me on skype: brian.moore
>> follow me on twitter:
>> http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123
>>
>>> On 01/10/2013 10:27 AM, Shermeen Khan wrote:
>>> Well, I'll add in my $.02, as i'm checking e-mail anyway and often 
>>> feel I need to jump in LOL.
>>>
>>> I, too, have been experiencing problems with siri's responsiveness. 
>>> I am quite the loose-leaf tea addict, so have to set fairly specific 
>>> timers for my tea to brew. When using IOS6, I could simply say 
>>> "siri, please set my timer for four minutes and thirty seconds" and 
>>> she would do it instantly. ever since upgrading, I'll ask siri to 
>>> perform the same task (politely of course, because I'm a Canadian 
>>> and that's how we roll), and then i'm usually met by a stoney 
>>> silence. I follow that up by frantically swiping around the screen, 
>>> and after a bit more silence, will hear things like "things you can 
>>> tell me. Ask "Where's Brian?" and not only do I not know Brian, I 
>>> honestly couldn't give two flying you know what's about where he is 
>>> at the moment. While this very uninspiring exchange is taking place 
>>> between siri and myself, my tea is sitting there steeping 
>>> confusedly, and then I just manually set a timer and try to account for
the fight I just had with siri.
>>>
>>> What gives?
>>> Shermeen
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 9/30/13, Rose Combs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> My coworker and driver got a 5C Saturday, Siri was very responsive 
>>>> compared to my 4S.  It did have to think a couple of times when she 
>>>> asked it a question, or used an unacceptable word after it told her 
>>>> it could not add a contact to her address book.
>>>>
>>>> It was amazing even my Husband's 5 seems slower than her phone but 
>>>> then she has no apps but the ones supplied, only had it less than 
>>>> 24 hours and had no clue about apps.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 10:25 PM
>>>> To: viphone
>>>> Subject: Re: Siri's performance in IOS7
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> This isn't true 100% of the time.  If I tell Siri "Tell Mary I will
give
>>>> her
>>>> a call in an hour."  At least for me, most of the time the message 
>>>> is read back.  The times when it isn't, its because VO interrupts 
>>>> it for some reason.  In this case, I place my finger on the screen, 
>>>> and flick to
the
>>>> edit field and VO reads the message.  I find the error rate to be 
>>>> on
par
>>>> with that found in IOS 6,  Maybe a little bit better.  But that 
>>>> isn't were Siri is really giving people a lot of headaches though.  
>>>> Its Siri actually processing your requests.  This failure rate is 
>>>> way up in IOS 7.  I would say its near the levels when it made its 
>>>> debut on the iPhone 4S.
>>>>
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 28, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> For those of you using Siri and iOS 7, here are a few questions
>>>> specifically related to dictation.
>>>>> I understand that Siri no longer reads back the text it has 
>>>>> inserted when
>>>> you do dictation. How then do you efficiently understand whether 
>>>> the text that has been inserted is correct? In iOS 6, this is easy 
>>>> because Siri reads it back.
>>>>> I have found that the error rate is very good in iOS 6. So most of 
>>>>> the
>>>> time, I don't have to hunt for anything to correct it, making the 
>>>> read back by far the most efficient means of knowing if my text is 
>>>> okay.
>>>>> So, how is the error rate in iOS 7 compared with that of iOS 6? It 
>>>>> seems
>>>> that there are varying reports on this topic. I use dictation a 
>>>> lot, such as in this message. And I will not upgrade if the ability 
>>>> to use it to write longer messages is seriously degraded. Yet one 
>>>> more reason to wait.
>>>>> Mary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:03 AM, "Jerry White" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have noticed the same thing.  I live in North Carolina, USA, 
>>>>>> and have thought that SIRI has taken a step back in response.  I 
>>>>>> love the automatically listening for a response after SIRI asks a 
>>>>>> question, but the time between asking a question and getting a 
>>>>>> response is
>>>> sometimes large.
>>>>>> Also, when using dictate in messaging, I sometimes have to move 
>>>>>> focus away from the message pane and back to get the text read.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for letting me know I'm not crazy, well, not this time,
anyway!
>>>> LOL!
>>>>>> Jerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
>>>>>> On Behalf Of Carol Pearson
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 11:45 AM
>>>>>> To: VI Phone Users
>>>>>> Subject: Siri's performance in IOS7
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm wondering if Siri's performance differs between various 
>>>>>> countries, or even within the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have noted an increased speed and performance when it comes to 
>>>>>> asking Siri a question but it seems that dictation has taken 
>>>>>> quite a step backwards for myself and other friends with whom 
>>>>>> I've spoken
here
>>>>>> in
>>>> the UK.
>>>>>> First, the time between dictating and text appearing at my end is 
>>>>>> definitely much slower and is also less accurate. In addition I'm 
>>>>>> sometimes not sure if dictated text has been processed because of 
>>>>>> the lack of speech from Siri who doesn't read aloud text as 
>>>>>> processed or even
>>>> say "Done".
>>>>>> Have you noticed these things, do you know why we should 
>>>>>> experience these difficulties and do you agree that this should 
>>>>>> be reported to
>>>> Apple?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
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