Re: Trying to clear my music

Arnold Schmidt Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:40:51 -0700

Of course, you were correct before IOS 7. What I wonder is if deleting analbum as a whole still can be done by manipulating this album art graphic insome way, but it can not be done with VoiceOver? I know you have access tosighted help more often than some of us, so you might check on this.


Arnold Schmidt

----- Original Message -----From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]>

To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: Trying to clear my music

You are correct, I actually went into the music app earlier and I couldhavesworn I could double tap artist, see a list of albums and then swipe downto

delete one. But, as you said, all songs are now listed for an artist with

albums just being headings and I agree that one should be able to deletean

artist or an album all at once.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:43 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music

The steps you outline in the following message for deleting albums workedinthe music app before IOS 7. But now, at least on my iPhone 5, if I hadDire

Straits as an artist, I would tap on it, and it would say album art for

brothers in arms, with its songs listed, followed by album art for loveover

gold, with its songs listed.  It no longer shows each individual album in
its own folder, so that it can be deleted as an album.  I can delete

individual songs by swiping down to delete, but not an album as a whole.IfI were to go to the more tab, select albums,and find either brothers inarms

or love over gold, the situation would be the same.I can not swipe down to
delete when focused on the album name, I only can delete individual songs
within the album.  Right now, I do not have an album that I wish to delete
song by song until they are all deleted to see if the folder for it still

would be there, or if it would disappear once all songs were deleted. Idonot have show all music checked in settings. The restructuring of themusic

app is one of the few things I definitely do not like better in IOS 7.
Overall, I think IOS 7 is much better.

Arnold Schmidt

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: Trying to clear my music

Hi Jen,

First of all, you didn't say whether you turned off Music and Videos in
Settings and iTunes and App Store and whether this in fact resulted in
your
Music app showing no music.
If you do this and your music app still has music in it, you should just
delete this music on your iPhone manually.Here is how you can do this:
1. If it's just a few songs, select the Songs tab at the bottom of the
screen, then on each song swipe down with 1 finger to select Delete from
the
Action rotor and double tap. This is the same method you use to delete a
text message or email.
2. If you have quite a bit of music downloaded, select the Artists tab.
Let's assume you have Dire Straits showing as an artist. Double tap on
Dire
Straits and let's say you see 2 entire albums, Brothers in Arms and Love

Over Gold. You can flick down with 1 finger to go to Delete and doubletap

and the entire album is deleted at once.

once no music is left you can now connect your iPhone to iTunes, go to
your
device and check the music radio button.
Now tab until you get to "Sync All Music", tab another once or twice and
you

will find "Sync selected playlists, genres, artist and albums". It maysay

it slightly differently, the main thing is you check this option, the one
for "Selected" music.

Once this is checked, tab again and you'll find treeviews for theseitems,

if you have Playlists you will find a treeview with all your Playlists,
you

will find one for all the Artists you have, one for all albums and onefor

all Genres.

In each of these treeviews (maybe they are listviews, I can neverrememberif Jaws say Treeview or List View here) you can arrow down through whatis

there and using the space bar check what you want.

I prefer to select my music by Artist so I go through my listing of 200or

so Artists I have and I check the ones I want, then I tab to Apply and
they
will sync to my iPhone.

If you strictly want to manage your music that way it is important tokeep

"Music" off in Settings and iTunes and App Store under the "Show All"
heading.
If you sync let's say Abba, Billy Joel, Dire Straights, Elton John and
Madonna from your iTunes library and you also have purchased Rod Stewart
and
Supertramp on iTunes, then if Music is off only the first 5 artists I

mentioned will be on your phone if you are in the artist view, if youturn

Music On Rod Stewart and Supertramp will also show up, but these songs
will

not be downloaded, there will be a download button beside each song ifyou

go into the album and through the list of songs and you could double tap
it
and redownload each song.

You really have to decide if you want to manage your music via iTunes or
the
cloud, but I think from what you said you want to do it via iTunes, so
make
sure you turn Music and Videos off and don't buy/enable iTunes Match
because
then everything you have in your music library becomes available via the
cloud.

One more thing you want to do if you strictly want to manage your music
via
iTunes is to turn off automatic downloads for music. This is also in
Settings and iTunes and App Store. Just swipe down further past the Show
All
options and where you can turn on iTunes Match and you come to a heading
which Voiceover reads as "Automatic Downloads".
Here you have 3 items: Music, Apps and Updates.
The explanation underneath reads "Automatically download mew purchases,
including free, made on other devices".
This means if you leave this on for Music and you buy a song from iTunes
on
your iPod Touch or in iTunes on your computer, then this song would
automatically be downloaded to your iPhone.
If you want to manage your iPhone music manually via iTunes, but you want
all your music in iTunes and on your iPod, you can keep this turned on on
your iPod and on the computer in iTunes under Preferences and the Store
tab.
This way if you buy a song on your phone it would automatically download
to
your iTunes on the computer and to your iPod Touch, of course if you buy
it
on the phone it would download to your phone, but this way it's
automatically included in your sync selection.

Hope this makes sense, it's really quite straight forward once you wrap
your
head around the concept of syncing and how the cloud works.

iTunes will remember settings separately for your iPod and your iPhone,so

you can check "Sync All Music" for your iPod but "Sync Selected Music" on
your iPhone.
If later on you want to, for example, remove Billy Joel from your iPhone
and
instead add Supertramp, you just connect your iPhone to iTunes, check the
Music radio button and tab to your listing of artists. Uncheck Billy Joel
and check Supertramp, tab to Apply and the change you made will be synced
to
your phone, Billy Joel is gone and Supertramp is there.


Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] OnBehalf

Of Jen Colley
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music

Thanks for this.
The one thing I ask though is this is both purchased and just downloaded
music that it is showing up.

I guess the real problem is, I have to much music for my phone but havean

iPod touch that can handle it all so don't really want to delete from
itunes.
I was under the impression that you could completely remove all music

purchased or downloaded from your music app on your phone. Then youcould

go to itunes and manually manage your music starting with a cleaned out
music app.
If I'm understanding this wrong I'm sorry.
Jen

-----Original Message-----From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Trying to clear my music

Hi Jen,

OK, if you follow exactly what I outline below you can disable showing
songs
you purchased but not downloaded:

Go to Settings, iTunes and App Store, you have the following screen:

Settings, back button - at the very top left
iTunes and App Store, heading - to the right of the back button and all
the
way across the top.
I suggest you start at the back button and swipe right to follow along.

Apple Id, [email protected]
This is underneath the top line with the iTunes and App Store heading.

I just put your Shaw email here as an example, if you use it as yourApple

Id that is what Voiceover will say, if you use a different email address
as
your Apple Id then Voiceover will say the "Apple Id" followed by that
email.
Now swipe right and you get the heading "Show All"
Underneath are 2 items (you can continue to swipe right) and you can
double
tap these to turn them On or Off.
The 2 choices are Music and Videos.
Swipe right once again and you hear a description explaining what these
are
for, Voiceover will say:
Show all store purchases and iTunes Match uploads in your music and video
libraries, even if they have not been downloaded to this iPhone.

What is probably happening on your phone is that Music is "On" whichmeans

anything you ever purchased will be listed, but it's not actually
downloaded
to your phone. If you go to a song or album you have the option to
download
it.
If you want to strictly manage what is on your iPhone by syncing it from
your iTunes library on your PC then you should turn off both Music and

Videos by double tapping on each. After you turn it off you can go backto

your music app and I bet that now it will say that it's empty unless of
course you already synced music to your phone.


Regards,
Sieghard

----Original Message-----

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] OnBehalf

Of Jen Colley
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music

It is showing stuff that is both purchased and downloaded.
All I want to do is clear it completely and put what I want back.
I don't see anything about music in music settings or useage.  It says
there

is nothing but when I open my music a ton of songs come up.
Jen

-----Original Message-----From: Chris H

Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music

Just a thought but do you have music turned on in the show all section
of settings music? This will show all music, including music purchased
from the store but not downloaded.

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On 27/10/2013 11:45, Jen Colley wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to delete all my music from my iPhone 4s and then manually
manage it.
When I go to useage as someone suggested, it says there is no music but
when I go to the music app there are a whole bunch of songs.
How do I get rid of them?
Jen


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