Hi Arnold,

OK, Alex who works for me and also has an iPhone had a look today and he
could also not figure out a way to delete an entire album. I think it is
definitely silly that one has to delete songs one at a time. I manage my
music via iTunes so I don't really care since I could easily just connect my
phone to iTunes, uncheck a few artists, do a sync and that music would be
gone. However, Apple is promoting iTunes Match and the fact you don't have
to connect you r phone to a computer if you don't want to, but they are not
providing an easy to delete a bunch of music quickly if somebody maybe wants
to do that in order to download different music from their iTunes Match
account.


Regards,
Sieghard



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music

Of course, you were correct before IOS 7.  What I wonder is if deleting an 
album as a whole still can be done by manipulating this album art graphic in

some way, but it can not be done with VoiceOver?  I know you have access to 
sighted help more often than some of us, so you might check on this.

Arnold Schmidt
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: Trying to clear my music


> You are correct, I actually went into the music app earlier and I could 
> have
> sworn I could double tap artist, see a list of albums and then swipe down 
> to
> delete one. But, as you said, all songs are now listed for an artist with
> albums just being headings and I agree that one should be able to delete 
> an
> artist or an album all at once.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Arnold Schmidt
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:43 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music
>
> The steps you outline in the following message for deleting albums worked 
> in
> the music app before IOS 7.  But now, at least on my iPhone 5, if I had 
> Dire
> Straits as an artist, I would tap on it, and it would say album art for
> brothers in arms, with its songs listed, followed by album art for love 
> over
> gold, with its songs listed.  It no longer shows each individual album in
> its own folder, so that it can be deleted as an album.  I can delete
> individual songs by swiping down to delete, but not an album as a whole. 
> If
> I were to go to the more tab, select albums,and find either brothers in 
> arms
> or love over gold, the situation would be the same.I can not swipe down to
> delete when focused on the album name, I only can delete individual songs
> within the album.  Right now, I do not have an album that I wish to delete
> song by song until they are all deleted to see if the folder for it still
> would be there, or if it would disappear once all songs were deleted.  I 
> do
> not have show all music checked in settings.  The restructuring of the 
> music
> app is one of the few things I definitely do not like better in IOS 7.
> Overall, I think IOS 7 is much better.
>
> Arnold Schmidt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 4:13 PM
> Subject: RE: Trying to clear my music
>
>
>> Hi Jen,
>>
>> First of all, you didn't say whether you turned off Music and Videos in
>> Settings and iTunes and App Store and whether this in fact resulted in
>> your
>> Music app showing no music.
>> If you do this and your music app still has music in it, you should just
>> delete this music on your iPhone manually.Here is how you can do this:
>> 1. If it's just a few songs, select the Songs tab at the bottom of the
>> screen, then on each song swipe down with 1 finger to select Delete from
>> the
>> Action rotor and double tap. This is the same method you use to delete a
>> text message or email.
>> 2. If you have quite a bit of music downloaded, select the Artists tab.
>> Let's assume you have Dire Straits showing as an artist. Double tap on
>> Dire
>> Straits and let's say you see 2 entire albums, Brothers in Arms and Love
>> Over Gold. You can flick down with 1 finger to go to Delete and double 
>> tap
>> and the entire album is deleted at once.
>>
>> once no music is left you can now connect your iPhone to iTunes, go to
>> your
>> device and check the music radio button.
>> Now tab until you get to "Sync All Music", tab another once or twice and
>> you
>> will find "Sync selected playlists, genres, artist and albums". It may 
>> say
>> it slightly differently, the main thing is you check this option, the one
>> for "Selected" music.
>> Once this is checked, tab again and you'll find treeviews for these 
>> items,
>> if you have Playlists you will find a treeview with all your Playlists,
>> you
>> will find one for all the Artists you have, one for all albums and one 
>> for
>> all Genres.
>> In each of these treeviews (maybe they are listviews, I can never 
>> remember
>> if Jaws say Treeview or List View here) you can arrow down through what 
>> is
>> there and using the space bar check what you want.
>> I prefer to select my music by Artist so I go through my listing of 200 
>> or
>> so Artists I have and I check the ones I want, then I tab to Apply and
>> they
>> will sync to my iPhone.
>> If you strictly want to manage your music that way it is important to 
>> keep
>> "Music" off in Settings and iTunes and App Store under the "Show All"
>> heading.
>> If you sync let's say Abba, Billy Joel, Dire Straights, Elton John and
>> Madonna from your iTunes library and you also have purchased Rod Stewart
>> and
>> Supertramp on iTunes, then if Music is off only the first 5 artists I
>> mentioned will be on your phone if you are in the artist view, if you 
>> turn
>> Music On Rod Stewart and Supertramp will also show up, but these songs
>> will
>> not be downloaded, there will be a download button beside each song if 
>> you
>> go into the album and through the list of songs and you could double tap
>> it
>> and redownload each song.
>>
>> You really have to decide if you want to manage your music via iTunes or
>> the
>> cloud, but I think from what you said you want to do it via iTunes, so
>> make
>> sure you turn Music and Videos off and don't buy/enable iTunes Match
>> because
>> then everything you have in your music library becomes available via the
>> cloud.
>>
>> One more thing you want to do if you strictly want to manage your music
>> via
>> iTunes is to turn off automatic downloads for music. This is also in
>> Settings and iTunes and App Store. Just swipe down further past the Show
>> All
>> options and where you can turn on iTunes Match and you come to a heading
>> which Voiceover reads as "Automatic Downloads".
>> Here you have 3 items: Music, Apps and Updates.
>> The explanation underneath reads "Automatically download mew purchases,
>> including free, made on other devices".
>> This means if you leave this on for Music and you buy a song from iTunes
>> on
>> your iPod Touch or in iTunes on your computer, then this song would
>> automatically be downloaded to your iPhone.
>> If you want to manage your iPhone music manually via iTunes, but you want
>> all your music in iTunes and on your iPod, you can keep this turned on on
>> your iPod and on the computer in iTunes under Preferences and the Store
>> tab.
>> This way if you buy a song on your phone it would automatically download
>> to
>> your iTunes on the computer and to your iPod Touch, of course if you buy
>> it
>> on the phone it would download to your phone, but this way it's
>> automatically included in your sync selection.
>>
>> Hope this makes sense, it's really quite straight forward once you wrap
>> your
>> head around the concept of syncing and how the cloud works.
>> iTunes will remember settings separately for your iPod and your iPhone, 
>> so
>> you can check "Sync All Music" for your iPod but "Sync Selected Music" on
>> your iPhone.
>> If later on you want to, for example, remove Billy Joel from your iPhone
>> and
>> instead add Supertramp, you just connect your iPhone to iTunes, check the
>> Music radio button and tab to your listing of artists. Uncheck Billy Joel
>> and check Supertramp, tab to Apply and the change you made will be synced
>> to
>> your phone, Billy Joel is gone and Supertramp is there.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Jen Colley
>> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 10:00 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music
>>
>> Thanks for this.
>> The one thing I ask though is this is both purchased and just downloaded
>> music that it is showing up.
>> I guess the real problem is, I have to much music for my phone but have 
>> an
>> iPod touch that can handle it all so don't really want to delete from
>> itunes.
>> I was under the impression that you could completely remove all music
>> purchased or downloaded from your music app on your phone.  Then you 
>> could
>> go to itunes and manually manage your music starting with a cleaned out
>> music app.
>> If I'm understanding this wrong I'm sorry.
>> Jen
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 12:44 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: Trying to clear my music
>>
>> Hi Jen,
>>
>> OK, if you follow exactly what I outline below you can disable showing
>> songs
>> you purchased but not downloaded:
>>
>> Go to Settings, iTunes and App Store, you have the following screen:
>>
>> Settings, back button - at the very top left
>> iTunes and App Store, heading - to the right of the back button and all
>> the
>> way across the top.
>> I suggest you start at the back button and swipe right to follow along.
>>
>> Apple Id, [email protected]
>> This is underneath the top line with the iTunes and App Store heading.
>> I just put your Shaw email here as an example, if you use it as your 
>> Apple
>> Id that is what Voiceover will say, if you use a different email address
>> as
>> your Apple Id then Voiceover will say the "Apple Id" followed by that
>> email.
>> Now swipe right and you get the heading "Show All"
>> Underneath are 2 items (you can continue to swipe right) and you can
>> double
>> tap these to turn them On or Off.
>> The 2 choices are Music and Videos.
>> Swipe right once again and you hear a description explaining what these
>> are
>> for, Voiceover will say:
>> Show all store purchases and iTunes Match uploads in your music and video
>> libraries, even if they have not been downloaded to this iPhone.
>>
>> What is probably happening on your phone is that Music is "On" which 
>> means
>> anything you ever purchased will be listed, but it's not actually
>> downloaded
>> to your phone. If you go to a song or album you have the option to
>> download
>> it.
>> If you want to strictly manage what is on your iPhone by syncing it from
>> your iTunes library on your PC then you should turn off both Music and
>> Videos by double tapping on each. After you turn it off you can go back 
>> to
>> your music app and I bet that now it will say that it's empty unless of
>> course you already synced music to your phone.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> ----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf
>> Of Jen Colley
>> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 9:06 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music
>>
>> It is showing stuff that is both purchased and downloaded.
>> All I want to do is clear it completely and put what I want back.
>> I don't see anything about music in music settings or useage.  It says
>> there
>>
>> is nothing but when I open my music a ton of songs come up.
>> Jen
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Chris H
>> Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 7:59 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Trying to clear my music
>>
>> Just a thought but do you have music turned on in the show all section
>> of settings music? This will show all music, including music purchased
>> from the store but not downloaded.
>>
>> E-mail Facebook and iMessage
>> [email protected]
>>
>> On 27/10/2013 11:45, Jen Colley wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I am trying to delete all my music from my iPhone 4s and then manually
>>> manage it.
>>> When I go to useage as someone suggested, it says there is no music but
>>> when I go to the music app there are a whole bunch of songs.
>>> How do I get rid of them?
>>> Jen
>>>
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