I think you can only get away with that only so long and isn't that just a little dishonest because you know you have no intension of leaving. I just ask them will you give me a better price. If they value your business they'll give it to you and no need to lie. I did that with Sprint for over ten years. I would hear things like let me check with my supervisor, or hold on a minute, let me talk to the boss.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Pelletier" <ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 4:43 PM
Subject: RE: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s


Hi Sieghard

Do you have Bell at your end of the country?

The reason why I ask is that I got a 2-year contract with my iPhone 5s that is what they call a customer retention contract. All you have to tell them
is that you are planning on going elsewhere and they are good at offering
their lowest price.

I get unlimited calling in Canada and the US, unlimited text in Canada and
the US, 3 gigs of data, call display, and a basic voice mail which is enough
for me even though it will only take 3 messages.  I usually check my
messages quite often and don't really need more than that. Unlike you, I am
not in business.  I am retired and, the fourth person can call me back.
(grin) The customer retention plan goes for $55 a month with my IP 5S. Of course, I had to pay $329 for the 32 gig phone which is $299 in the US. I
guess, in two years, I'll threaten them to leave and go elsewhere and see
what they have to offer. I got this plan because of my threat to leave when
I have been with them for 19 years.  I was the longest time customer the
manager had seen in his store and, that is a downtown store.

Ron & Danvers



-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s

Hi Katey,

Yes, this seems to be universal and there is no good fix. Apparently
resetting all settings fixes it until you accidently go below 35% again.
Let's hope Apple will fix this properly in the next update, I suggest you
write to accessibil...@apple.com and add your voice to those who have
already written.

By the way, AT&T and other carriers who offer these annual upgrades are
totally hosing people. You would be much better off trying to find a MVNO
where you pay $30 a month less and to buy an unlocked phone outright from
Apple. I know in the States they don't offer them right away, but you should
be able to get one soon. I am in Canada and I now pay just over $50 for
unlimited phone calls in Canada, unlimited texts including Canada and the
States and 2 Gb of data, also call display and voice mail, visual voice mail costs me an extra $2. Getting the same from one of the large carriers would
cost me a good $30 a month more, so over 24 months the math is simple,
approx $700 to $750. Add to that the cost of whichever iPhone you get and
you would actually save a bit buying it at full price and you would not have
a contract, if I find something better or maybe there is another promo at
Christmas I can just sign up for it.

Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: considering updating from a 4s to a 5s

Thanks all, I decided to go ahead, as my contract was up -- I went to AT&T
and hopefully I should get it  this weekend, as they were out of stock.

I also went with their new program "Next" so I'm paying (over time) for the phone and this allows me to be able to get a new phone next year if I want.


Of course, if I don't like it for whatever reason I can always return it and
go back to my 4s.

I will admit that I turned on VO on the 5s they had on display, and I put
volume in the roter and I tried turnning up the volume to 100% and it would only go to 90%. Then I went below 35% and I wasn't able to get above that!


Does this effect everyone? How do you fix this? I know easy is to not use
the volume in the roter!  Any other ideas?

Katey

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 29, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Marianne Denning
<maria...@denningweb.com>
wrote:

I upgraded only because my contract was up.  I don't see that much
difference.  I like SIRI better on the 5s so I guess that is a matter
of opinion.  I agree that either way is fine.  I have not tried the
fingerprint feature so cannot comment on that.

On 10/29/13, Chris H <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote:
Katie I really think if you are happy with your 4s stick with it.
Don't just upgrade because it's the latest and greatest. I say do
whatever's best for you. I have a 4s and love it and don't intend to
upgrade.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 29/10/2013 14:00, Katey Glass wrote:
Hello All,

I've heard some of the problems some of you have had with the iPhone
5s, namely if you turn the volume in the rotor lower than 35% it
won't go higher and of course some fingerprint reader issues.

Does this effect everyone?  Do you regret updating?  Since the last
iOS update my 4s seems more stable, no hypersensitivity issues and
the phone after it rings stays in the ear piece.

I realize the iOS will definately be faster, so what do you think?

Katey

Sent from my iPad

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