HI Ricardo,

to be fair, Apple is not always super red hot about updating everything. :)

On the developer side of things, some of the guides can get quite out of date. 
So it's not altogether impossible. :)

As for the streaming vs downloading issue, I tried this again and while I did 
get the same results I said in my notes, I also found something interesting, 
which is that at least on my end, the track seems to behave as if it is 
downloaded and not downloaded at the same time! lol! Sort of a quantum thing! 
lol!

What I mean is this; Once I play the track once, (or just a fraction of a 
second of the track) and then turn on Airplane mode, I can then still play the 
track so it does appear to be downloaded. However, as I'd mentioned before, 
When I re-enable Airplane mode, I still have the download button next to the 
track.

I also cannot delete this track from my device. So this also seems to act as if 
it is not downloaded.

I'm thinking these tracks are getting cached in some way but not kept perhaps.

Any track I intentionally download by tapping the download button will download 
to my device and then give me the option to delete it thereafter. If I do this, 
the download button appears again and I no longer have the option to delete the 
track from my device.

I will ad that I've also turned off iTunes Match and signed out of my account, 
and then signed back in and re-enabled iTunes Match and this behavior still 
persists.

So this is definitely interesting.

Thanks to you and David and others for your posts!

Smiles,

Cara :)
On Nov 21, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

Just to add to this, let me copy exactly what Apple says about streaming and 
downloading in regards to iTunes match.  I would also like to point out, Apple 
is really good about updating their knowledge bases so, I’m surprised if this 
has changed like David and Cara says, that it hasn’t been reflected in Apples 
documentation 2 months after IOS 7 has been released.  But here’s the info.

"Does iTunes Match stream or download songs?”

"On a computer, any songs stored in iCloud will stream over the air when 
played, though you can download them at any time by clicking the iCloud 
download button. iOS devices will start playing tracks from iCloud as they 
download and will store them so that you can listen to them later even if you 
don’t have a network connection. Apple TV only streams songs.”

hth

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Nov 21, 2013, at 11:11 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Yes. I am running IOS 7.0.4 on my iPad mini, iPhone 5, and an iPad mini 
> retina.  All 3 show the behavior I described.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
> 
> On Nov 21, 2013, at 6:17 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What Ricardo describes is how Music Match always behaved before iOS 7. 
>> According to Apple, the behavior is supposed to now be what Cara describes. 
>> Unless Recardo has not yet updated the particular iPhone, I would wonder why 
>> he is getting the earlier actions from his iDevice.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 22 Nov 2013, at 10:08, Cara Quinn <modelc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting,
>>> 
>>> For me the song does not get downloaded unless I tap the download button 
>>> next to it.
>>> 
>>> Just tried it before I posted last night to make sure. :)
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Cara :)
>>> On Nov 21, 2013, at 3:42 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Cara,
>>> 
>>> In my experience this is definitely not the case.  For example,  Go to 
>>> settings/general/usage, and make sure you have no music on your device.  If 
>>> there is, hit the edit button in the music section of usage, and delete all 
>>> music.    Now, play 3 songs via iTunes match.  Finally, go to 
>>> settings/general/about, and you will see that there are now 3 songs on your 
>>> device.  I think it just streams while songs you play are being downloaded. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Cara Quinn <modelc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Christopher,
>>>> 
>>>> The docs may say that but in practice that's not what seems to happen. :)
>>>> 
>>>> When you play a track from iCloud that track is still there and you still 
>>>> have the option to download it to your device. The track is not actually 
>>>> on your device.
>>>> 
>>>> So it does stream to your device.
>>>> 
>>>> If you wish to download the track there is a button to the right of the 
>>>> track which allows you to do this. When you do this, the button goes away 
>>>> and you need to delete the track from your device in order to bring it 
>>>> back.
>>>> 
>>>> Hope this helps and thanks for posting that!
>>>> 
>>>> Smiles,
>>>> 
>>>> Cara :)
>>>> On Nov 20, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't ask the original question, but I noticed that it said the 
>>>> following on the iTunes Match FAQ at 
>>>> http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/
>>>> 
>>>> Does iTunes Match stream or download songs?
>>>> On a computer, any songs stored in iCloud will stream over the air when 
>>>> played, though you can download them at any time by clicking the iCloud 
>>>> download button. iOS devices will start playing tracks from iCloud as they 
>>>> download and will store them so that you can listen to them later even if 
>>>> you don’t have a network connection. Apple TV only streams songs.
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/20/2013 04:00 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>> 
>>>>> iTunes Match is what you want.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You do not need to have an item downloaded to your phone in order to play 
>>>>> it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> NOt sure where that info came from but rest assured that iTunes Match is 
>>>>> meant specifically for this sort of thing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best of luck and have a great day / evening!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Smiles,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cara :)
>>>>> On Nov 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, r...@q.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> My music library exceeds the storage space on my IPhone.  I have currently
>>>>> handled this by selecting particular songs to sync between ITunes and my
>>>>> phone.  What I'd like to do is play my music on my IPhone without having 
>>>>> to
>>>>> load it on the phone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I thought ITunes Match might work but from what I read there is not an
>>>>> option to play a song without loading it onto my IPhone.  Is there another
>>>>> app or service that will do this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
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