Hello Esther Wow, that's a lot of info. Thank you very much. I shall try. I note that my iPhone 4S gives the model as MD235So/a and the iPad mini gives me800hc/a. I wonder if all the iPhone 4S's and iPad mini 2's have these model numbers and that it is then only the serial number which differs on each device. If so, that's an easy way to identify the product. Regards Fanus
----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <mori...@mac.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:01 AM Subject: Re: How to know which iPad mini Hi Fanus, The way to check the exact product model you have of an iOS device is to look at the device model number that is reported under Settings > General > About. If you're running iOS 7, which you would have to be, if you have a second generation iPad Mini, you can use the three finger quadruple tap gesture to copy that information to clipboard. So one way to get this information would be: 1. Launch Settings 2. Flick right to "General" button and double tap 3. Focus will move to the "About" button, which VoiceOver announce. Double tap anywhere on the screen to select this. 4. Focus will move to the Name entry, e.g. "Fanus's iPad" 5. Flick right until you reach the "Model" entry 6. Do a three finger quadruple tap. VoiceOver will say "Model xxx" copied to pasteboard. Once you have copied the model number information to the pasteboard, you can switch to Safari, and do a search on that model number. I was able to modify the above list of numbered commands tomadd a step 5a, where it set the rotor to "Words", and navigated to the model. This only gets the portion of the model identifier before the "slash" character, but I found I was able to navigate to the Everymac.com Ulimate Mac Lookup page at: http://everymac.com/ultimate-mac-lookup/ I set my rotor to "Form controls" and flicked down twice to the text field for "Enter Mac, iPod, iPhone or iPad Identifier:", double tapped, then set my rotor to "Edit", flicked to "Paste", and double tapped to paste in the model identification code up through the slash. Flick right to the "Lookup" button and double tap. you may find it easier to do this with the corresponding keyboard shortcuts on a paired Bluetooth keyboard. I believe VO-Shift-C works under iOS 7 to copy the last spoken phrase to clipboard just as it does on the Mac. The web page refreshes, but if you navigate back to the form control for the search field, and read all from there, you'll hear a complete description of the iPad model, generation, carrier, intro date, etc. Having said this, there are other, and probably easier ways to ID the model of your iPad. In the U.S., Canada, U.K., and most European countries, I would simply go to the Apple "My Support Profile" page and log in with my Apple ID. This is the Apple ID you used to register the device when you set it up. (Unfortunately, I have two Apple IDs, since my first Apple ID was created for purchasing from the iTunes Store, and doesn't follow the convention of having an email address for the Apple ID format.). just check under whatever Apple ID you used to register your device. You can Google "Apple My Support Profile", or use the following URL: https://supportprofile.apple.com This comes up with a U.S. location for me, and with an optional link to switch the geographic location: https://supportprofile.apple.com/localeSwitcher Notice, there is no specific entry for "South Africa" or other locations in Africa. in Latin America, only Mexico is listed, although there are quite a few countries listed in Europe, and Australia, New Zealand, and Japan are listed in the Asia/Pacific region. If you do log in with your Apple ID at "My Support Profile", you'll have a record not only of the specific model of your registered products, but the serial number, and many other detailed specifications. I think you can also find out the information if you connect your device to iTunes on your computer, and read through the identification information on the tabs associated with the device. You could also try to do a web search on the Model number. As for the distinctions between the first and second generation iPad Mini, the processor speed in the new models will make a big difference if you are using Audiobus compatible music creation apps, and using multiple Audiobus-compatible music apps to combine input sources or recording. This includes apps like GarageBand, Thumbjam, and over a hundre other of the more powerful music creation apps that were designed to be Audiobus compatible so that the outputs of these apps could be used as the inputs of other Audiobus-compatible amps. On older devices with slower processors, the performance will lag and stutter, with minimal specs for the fifth generation iPod Touch and the iPhone 4S. Even older model devices simply won't be able to support Audiobus sharing, even if they run GarageBand, etc. (e.g., on a fourth generation iPod Touch). The biggest performance gains in processor capability came with the introduction of the iPhone 5c, 5, and 5s (in increasing processor capability), the fourth generation iPad, and the second generation iPad Mini, and iPad Air. All these devices need to get the Audiobus app as well as specific Audiobus-capable music apps, such as GarageBand, if they want to combine the output features of some apps to use as input or loops for other apps. HTH. Cheers, Esther -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VIPhone" Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. 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