Excellent Points David! :) Let me add to this that also, occasionally, a label may be designed in such a way that a logo or color scheme is not optimal for the particular lighting conditions or may simply be printed in colors which do not show up well for easy reading, even by humans. So images like this may be very difficult to be interpreted.
Thanks and have a lovely day! Smiles, Cara :) On Feb 2, 2014, at 1:38 AM, David Chittenden <[email protected]> wrote: My problem with TapTapSee has always been the fact that I cannot send a question along with the image. As for labels being read, whether it is a human, or a computer, print is not like braille. If the camera is moving, in the slightest, print blurs. If the camera is tilted at all, in any direction, from the plain of the writing, parallax causes parts of the text to look very different, and may well make it unreadable. If the lighting is blocked in any way, shading may well shadow parts of the text and cause the text to become unreadable. If the camera is too close to the text, the text may become so large in the picture that only part of it is there. If the camera is too far, the text becomes so small that it cannot be recognised. And, when two or more of these factors are combined, it becomes even more difficult to recognise / read the text. Oh, and let's not forget, if the camera lens becomes too smudged, text and other images become blurry. If your recognition images have been getting worse over time, the first thing I would do is use windex on the camera lens. According to what I have read, Apple suggests only using Windex to cleanse the special glass which covers the camera lens. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: [email protected] Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 2 Feb 2014, at 20:17, "Kay Malmquist" <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, > I do use CamFind and like it a lot because one time I took a picture of a > bottle of Permabond metal adhesive and I went to their web site and found the > instructions on how to use it. That app is a definite keeper. It just > bothers me that TTS was really good and I used to use it a lot but now it > does not work as well as it once did. as I said before, I have no problem > paying and that is not the issue here. > Kay > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:33 AM > Subject: RE: a tap tapt see rant > > Hi Kay, > > With all respect, you just said you had to resort to Camfind to get the job > done so that means you were able to get the job done with Camfind, a free > app, so why not just use it from now on or at least until Tap Tap See has > made it possible to ask a question along with your text. > > Keep in mind that Tap Tap See is only one app/project for the developers. I'm > not an app developer, but I assume changing Tap Tap See so you can ask a > question or maybe pick from a list of certain general questions may not be as > easy as you think. Personally I am happy anytime I successfully use any of > these apps, Tap Tap See, Camfind, Talking Goggles etc., to recognize anything > since it's sure a lot more than what I was able to do before. I've been to > Chinese restaurants with friends and even some of them who were perfectly > sighted had a hard time to read these tiny slips of paper that come out of a > fortune cooky. Well, at least I hope your message when you finally got the > answer was "You will experience great financial gain soon which allows you to > buy more Tap Tap See credits" *smile*. > > Good fortune, > Sieghard > > > possibly implemented > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Kay Malmquist > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 8:16 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: a tap tapt see rant > > Yes, but the ability to ask questions has already been put to the fine people > at TTS and still nothing as of yet. That is not to say it isn't being worked > on. I don't care how small or stupid to some people a fortune is, not > everybody is going to want the same things from an app. It has done me many > favors and read some really neat things to me but it seems more and more as > though it is not doing the job expected. Several months ago, if I took a > picture of a fortune cookie paper, which I had done, it would be read the > first time. This is not the case any more. I have meat in my freezer which > I buy by the side and by the pig and It does not have bar codes on it and > just has labels that have to be read. TTS Used to get these right on the > first try and this is not the case any more. I have to resort to CamFind to > get the job done any more and nothing has changed I might add. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robin Frost > To: [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 9:44 PM > Subject: Re: a tap tapt see rant > > Hi, > I write the following in humility and with the utmost respect. While I too > have always been a proponent of an ask a specific question feature and think > it certainly could serve only to enhance the usefulness and efficiency of the > app for all users, it seems to me that your reaction in this instance might > be a bit unfair. After all given the scope of the information the app > delivers to recognizers at this juncture they did give accurate information > based on that which they had available to them. You know what they say about > assuming (smile). We can't assume that what we wish to know is obvious to > them any more than they could or necessarily should assume that they can > deduce exactly that you wanted the actual text of the fortune. In truth I'm > amazed that it came out clearly enough for someone to eventually recognize > for you. Again I'm not disagreeing that an ask a specific question via text > feature in the app isn't greatly longed for and perhaps necessary to enhance > its usefulness. I'm just saying that I'm glad your rant was first directed > at us as opposed to them (smile). > Perhaps when the heat of the moment has dissipated a request for such a > feature and explanation of how it could only benefit both users of the app > and those who recognize images might be easier for you to send their way. > Just my two cents no one asked for and no one is obligated to live by. > > Robin > > From: Kay Malmquist > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2014 10:33 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: a tap tapt see rant > > I need to write this to the people at Tap Tap See, but right now I am > anything but constructive. For some odd reason I love to know what my > fortune cookie says. So I started tap tap see and took a picture. first > come back was, "fortune cookie paper". Brilliant deduction Sherlock. I am > blind not dense. Next came back with numbers. Oops! wrong side so I flip > it over. Then next I get, "white paper with black text". No kidding! Next > I finally am treated to the actual fortune. Now I had another one stuffed in > my jacket pocket so I decided since I was in picture wasting mode I might as > well try for more. First was fortune cookie paper, then text on white > paper, then numbers, my bad again, turn it over. Then back to same stuff > different side. Finally, the words I had been waiting to hear. all in all, > 11 pictures wasted before outcome is achieved. I have paid for 100 pictures > and feel this is a huge rip off. If I had a way to ask even though in this > case I don't feel I should have to state the obvious, A lot of time and > wasted effort could have been eliminated. 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