and if you want the trash option when deleting messages from your Gmail account, instead of the archive option, then go into Settings -> Mail, Contacts, Calendars and double tap on your Gmail account. Double tap on your account again, double tap on Advanced and select the deleted mailbox option under move discarded messages into.

On 05/17/2014 04:41 PM, Kellie wrote:
I just wanted to mention that there is an easier way to delete email
messages on an eye device. Whenever I'm reading email and I want to
delete a message, I simply perform a single finger flick up until I hear
archive if I'm in Gmail or trash if I'm in my SBC global account. Then I
double tap any erases it. This works if I'm deleting an entire thread or
just deleting an individual message in a thread. I just thought I would
share that in case people weren't aware.

Kellie and guide Loki
Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Alex Hall <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster,
partly because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have
tons of keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut,
you can assign one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games,
book-reading, and tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus
app development, audio editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and
more efficient versions of things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac,
deleting some emails is as easy as shift-arrowing along the list, then
pressing delete. On iOS, you double tap edit, double tap each message
after flicking to it, then double tap "trash".

Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in
some areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big
part of the mac, but it is not at all "crazy-making" past the first
month of constant use. You eventually know that some items require
interaction and some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad
Commander, you can do a two-finger flick right to interact, and left
to stop interacting. Or, assign the two commands to a keyboard or
numpad commander to make it easier, or use Quick Nav. The OP, and
anyone else confused about Macs, should read the following articles:

Common Mac myths:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac

Getting started with VoiceOver:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover

Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC
than
doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
Audio editing with GoldWave.
Web site creation and maintenance
Excel spreadsheets

Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.

I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
with headings, etc.
The business of having to figure out when to "interact" and when you
don't
need to "interact" with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy
making.
Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
arrow to stop interacting.

HTH,
Richard




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Of Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Computer vs. I device

Hi folks,
I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws?
Unlike
the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew
Braille
but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?

Again, I hope this isn't too OT.

Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

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