Alex, Thanks for the resources.
Macs are more productive for you. I have used computers since the Commodore 64 in the early 1980's. For me personally, I find Windows a more productive environment but I know there are tons of Mac users that feel the same about Macs. I'm very glad that both exist along with Linux and whatever else is out there. One size does not fit all and I'm not saying one is always better than the other, I was merely expressing a personal statement in response to a question. I have already referred a client to the list of resources you gave and will continue to encourage folks to find the system that works best for them. But I Will say, the iPhone is the best portable device since sliced bread, grin. Richard' From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 7:38 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap "trash". Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of the mac, but it is not at all "crazy-making" past the first month of constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the following articles: Common Mac myths: http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voi ceover-mac Getting started with VoiceOver: http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-vo iceover Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users: http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac <http://www.applevis.com/new-to-mac> On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner <rich...@turner42.com <mailto:rich...@turner42.com> > wrote: The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are: Word process editing. It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice. Audio editing with GoldWave. Web site creation and maintenance Excel spreadsheets Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more. I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word processing on a Mac. Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting with headings, etc. The business of having to figure out when to "interact" and when you don't need to "interact" with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy making. Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of, Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up arrow to stop interacting. HTH, Richard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Computer vs. I device Hi folks, I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any different on a Mac than on an iPhone? 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