oMg!...   the bit about the mail is classic, do real work on a real Pc and 
the more casual stuff on the iOs device.
This pretty well sums up what I was trying to put over; so there's at least 
3 of us now saying approximately the same.

RobH.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Hall" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 3:38 PM
Subject: Re: Computer vs. I device


Macs are better for productivity, partly because they are faster, partly 
because they offer full keyboards, and partly because they have tons of 
keyboard shortcuts. Plus, if a menu option lacks a shortcut, you can assign 
one yourself. I use my iOS device for RSS, mail, games, book-reading, and 
tons more. I use my Mac for some of the same, plus app development, audio 
editing, heavy typing, easier web browsing, and more efficient versions of 
things I do on iOS. For instance, on a Mac, deleting some emails is as easy 
as shift-arrowing along the list, then pressing delete. On iOS, you double 
tap edit, double tap each message after flicking to it, then double tap 
"trash".

Macs are way different, but not better or worse. They beat Windows in some 
areas, and Windows beats them in some areas. Interaction is a big part of 
the mac, but it is not at all "crazy-making" past the first month of 
constant use. You eventually know that some items require interaction and 
some don't, and you're done. Also, with Trackpad Commander, you can do a 
two-finger flick right to interact, and left to stop interacting. Or, assign 
the two commands to a keyboard or numpad commander to make it easier, or use 
Quick Nav. The OP, and anyone else confused about Macs, should read the 
following articles:

Common Mac myths:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-mac-os-x/debunking-common-myths-about-voiceover-mac

Getting started with VoiceOver:
http://www.applevis.com/guides/accessories/getting-started-your-mac-using-voiceover

Plus the other guides and articles on the Applevis page for new Mac users:
http://www.applevis.com//new-to-mac
On May 16, 2014, at 9:37 AM, Richard Turner <[email protected]> wrote:

> The only things I do on the computer that I don't do on the iPhone are:
> Word process editing.  It is so much easier to deal with Word on a PC than
> doing any real editing and formatting on an iDevice.
> Audio editing with GoldWave.
> Web site creation and maintenance
> Excel spreadsheets
>
> Pretty much everything else I mostly do with the iPhone; banking, web
> searches, Email, looking up definitions, and much more.
>
> I also think Microsoft word is far, far easier to use than any word
> processing on a Mac.  Especially if you are doing any kind of formatting
> with headings, etc.
> The business of having to figure out when to "interact" and when you don't
> need to "interact" with an element on the screen with a Mac is crazy 
> making.
> Plus, it is one of the strangest keystrokes I have ever heard of,
> Control+Shift+Options+down arrow to interact and Control+Shift+Options+up
> arrow to stop interacting.
>
> HTH,
> Richard
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 2:35 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Computer vs. I device
>
> Hi folks,
> I hope this isn't too ot. I'm considering buying my first laptop. What do
> you use a computer for that an ode vice can't do? Also, is VoiceOver any
> different on a Mac than on an iPhone? How does it compare with jaws? 
> Unlike
> the iPhone, does it know Hebrew? Can it cope with it if knows Hebrew 
> Braille
> but doesn't have an appropriate voice synthesizer?
>
> Again, I hope this isn't too OT.
>
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
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