A lot of people's points here ar that without voiceover, you would not have braille. I know you would like such an option but it does not currently exist. Braille support is tied directly into voice over as it now stands.
Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2014, at 10:49 AM, todd patkus <tpat...@shellworld.net> wrote: > > Sandy et al, > > This message was directly towards Sieghard. > > Since I am profoundly deaf (although I do have some hearing) and totally > blind, Voiceover is completely useless. I am simply a HEAVY Braille user. I > see no reason why I ought to have Voiceover for navigating. It does not have > to. Muting VO is nothing, hence no answer. There should have been two > options: > > (a) Voiceover on for those who can he > > (b) Only Braille for those who cannot hear but depend only Braille > > That is by far logical! > > That is what I am trying to tell you. > > Apple meeds to see the clear point on that. > > That is it. > > Todd > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Sandratomkins <sandratomk...@googlemail.com >> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com >> Date sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:21:40 +0100 >> Subject: Re: Announcing caller ID > >> Todd, >> Perhaps I am missing something here, but, it seems to me, you do > need voice over regardless of the voice in order to navigate the screen. You > could have the voice muted, of course, but you do need it if you wish to > navigate screen using a braille display. >> Just my thoughts, >> Sandy > >> Sent from my iPhone > >>> On 17 Jun 2014, at 20:42, todd patkus <tpat...@shellworld.net> > wrote: > >>> Sieghard, > >>> It is easy to say such. But you miss many points here. > >>> The point here is: we each have our right for something > accomplished. Yes, it is part of the civil rights act. > >>> I really care less about that Voiceover! So what!!!! > >>> That is completely useless to me! Apple should know better than > that, period! > >>> I feel very compelled to speak out for deafblind folks, not you > proud blind folks! > >>> Think twice. That is it. > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:30:22 -0700 >>>> Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID > >>>> Todd, > >>>> I don't think it's feasible for Apple to put in Settings to > allow >>> for the >>>> smallest customization which a very small percentage of users >>> might want. I >>>> think most people want Voiceover to announce who is calling >>> without having >>>> to pick up the phone and fiddle around with it before they hear >>> the number. >>>> This would be like saying Apple should put in something for >>> sighted users so >>>> that the caller's number is only displayed when they touch the >>> screen. >>>> If the phone is across the room, if it is in my pocket or maybe > I >>> have dirty >>>> or wet hands the call probably has gone to Voicemail by the time >>> I check the >>>> screen.If somebody doesn't want this announced because they are >>> in a meeting >>>> then they probably wouldn't want the phone to ring either and >>> it's an easy >>>> thing to flick the Mute switch which means the phone will not >>> ring and >>>> Voiceover won't say anything. > > >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard > >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>> On Behalf >>>> Of todd patkus >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:29 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID > >>>> Then, there should be a feature Apple should definitely enhance >>> in their >>>> iOS! > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:16:52 -0700 >>>>> Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID > >>>>> No, there is not. > > > >>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>> On Behalf Of Rami >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:07 PM >>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>> Subject: Announcing caller ID > > > > > >>>>> Hello > >>>>> Is there a way to stop voiceOver from announcing the caller ID >>>> automatically when receiving an incoming call? > >>>>> Thanks in advance. > >>>>> -- >>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>> viphone list. 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