whatever you say, David. I stand for the deafblind, not
hearing-blind, therefore, your stand falls out!
Please stop. No argument here!
----- Original Message -----
From: David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 03:41:10 +1200
Subject: Re: Announcing caller ID
VoiceOver is the system which specifically controls the use of
braille in the iPhone. If VoiceOver is not present and running,
you will not get braille. Therefore, you are incorrect. For
you, VoiceOver is absolutely essential.. Do not get confused by
the word voice in the name of the screen access solution which
gives you braille access to the iPhone, iPod, and iPad.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone
On 19 Jun 2014, at 2:49, todd patkus <tpat...@shellworld.net>
wrote:
Sandy et al,
This message was directly towards Sieghard.
Since I am profoundly deaf (although I do have some hearing) and
totally blind, Voiceover is completely useless. I am simply a
HEAVY Braille user. I see no reason why I ought to have
Voiceover for navigating. It does not have to. Muting VO is
nothing, hence no answer. There should have been two options:
(a) Voiceover on for those who can he
(b) Only Braille for those who cannot hear but depend only
Braille
That is by far logical!
That is what I am trying to tell you.
Apple meeds to see the clear point on that.
That is it.
Todd
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandratomkins <sandratomk...@googlemail.com
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 10:21:40 +0100
Subject: Re: Announcing caller ID
Todd,
Perhaps I am missing something here, but, it seems to me, you do
need voice over regardless of the voice in order to navigate the
screen. You could have the voice muted, of course, but you do
need it if you wish to navigate screen using a braille display.
Just my thoughts,
Sandy
Sent from my iPhone
On 17 Jun 2014, at 20:42, todd patkus <tpat...@shellworld.net
wrote:
Sieghard,
It is easy to say such. But you miss many points here.
The point here is: we each have our right for something
accomplished. Yes, it is part of the civil rights act.
I really care less about that Voiceover! So what!!!!
That is completely useless to me! Apple should know better than
that, period!
I feel very compelled to speak out for deafblind folks, not you
proud blind folks!
Think twice. That is it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:30:22 -0700
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
Todd,
I don't think it's feasible for Apple to put in Settings to
allow
for the
smallest customization which a very small percentage of users
might want. I
think most people want Voiceover to announce who is calling
without having
to pick up the phone and fiddle around with it before they hear
the number.
This would be like saying Apple should put in something for
sighted users so
that the caller's number is only displayed when they touch the
screen.
If the phone is across the room, if it is in my pocket or maybe
I
have dirty
or wet hands the call probably has gone to Voicemail by the time
I check the
screen.If somebody doesn't want this announced because they are
in a meeting
then they probably wouldn't want the phone to ring either and
it's an easy
thing to flick the Mute switch which means the phone will not
ring and
Voiceover won't say anything.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf
Of todd patkus
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
Then, there should be a feature Apple should definitely enhance
in their
iOS!
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 12:16:52 -0700
Subject: RE: Announcing caller ID
No, there is not.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Rami
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 12:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Announcing caller ID
Hello
Is there a way to stop voiceOver from announcing the caller ID
automatically when receiving an incoming call?
Thanks in advance.
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