I agree with Jerry here, but I'll let the list moderators deal with the rudeness on the list.

It is true that a lot of information will show up on this list, and even more information will be made freely available via podcasts on places like AppleVis.com. There are some people though who would like a well written and well organized introduction into the new features of IOS 8. It's much more efficient to go through such a book then it is to slog through all of the questions and answers that will show up on this list. It'll be a high traffic list when IOS 8 comes out, many questions will be repeated, opinions will be stated, subject lines won't be updated, threads will be hijacked and although it'll be a great resource, it could be a pretty tedious way to find the few nuggets of new information someone is particularly looking for in IOS 8.

Jonathan has freely contributed a lot of information to the blindness community over the years, and I know I've learned a lot from his posts, his podcasts and his blog articles. I don't have a problem with someone putting his time and effort into writing a good resource for the blind and then putting it up for sale. I doubt anyone is going to get rich writing a book for the blind IOS user. If it's a good resource, and people are willing to pay for it, then it'll be successful and a useful tool for those who want to get that information in that format. Not everyone learns and picks up things in the same way so the more choices the better. I'm sure there are books for the sighted IOS user, so I see it as a good thing that we in the blindness community have the same type of choices.

I know Jonathan is a professional who's been working in the blindness field for a while, so I'm assuming he will take the high road and not respond in kind to the post Jerry is referring to below. This is a public list, and none of us get to choose who is and is not on the list. We won't like every opinion that's expressed here, so hopefully everyone will consider the source and let a member express their opinion without it devolving into a flame war.

On 07/29/2014 01:18 AM, Jerry Mader wrote:
I am not trying to start a flame war here but I have to put my opinion in on 
this matter. I think that it is very rude what Joseph had said. I don't think 
that Jonathan is trying to make money off of us I think he's just trying to 
sell a book. You don't have to buy that book if you so desire sir but there may 
be other people who do. I wish that people wouldn't make such disrespectful 
comments. Because technically, we are very lucky to have this book! Do you know 
of any other place we can get this information besides this list and Jonathan's 
book? You tell me where to go? And I will go look. But I don't believe there is 
any other place. Jonathan has spent countless hours probably, researching all 
of this information to bring it to us in a straight forward way. Why disrespect 
the guy by saying what you did. That was not right. However you have your 
opinion I have mine. I'm just stating mine. I did not mean to start any trouble 
I was just saying what I felt. And I will be one who buys
this book. It is only $20. That is not that expensive! It really isn't. Think 
about this would you rather spend $20 on something you can use, or spend $20 
and something that you may never use? I've known things that people spend at 
least $20 on, that they never use. That I've known things like this book, that 
people spend money on and do use every day. Just thought I would throw my two 
cents in. Jerry Mader


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