As a business owner that markets products to the blind iPhone using community, I am glad for as many resources as possible to recommend to customers. Buy the book if you like; if you don't, don't. It's really that simple. I'm of the mind that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I'm both amazed and rather ashamed to be in the blind community with how it seems to react and spread negativity around like poison in the online world, just because someone wrote a book and is profiting. I didn't see the same responses when National Braille Press came out with their various iPhone books. This is no different really. Maybe folks did react in a similar manner to that as well, but I don't recall having seen that. How really, is this different from the tons of technology ebooks out there that people self publish and put up on Kindle or smashwords? Thanks to the internet, anyone can be an author; and anyone can sell their books and publish with ease. Is it because this person happens to be in our community? You know, I believe that we are probably the only community in the disability world that seems to feel like it should get everything for free. This applies to books, or even software; which people spend many hours working on. The very idea that they should be paid for their time and resources. *gasps* I guess I just don't see why this has to come with ranting and discussion. Furthermore, what Jonathan did is simple business marketing. If nobody had purchased the prior book/s, he wouldn't have written this one. As people did, logic would dictate that there is or could be a need; therefore, the book for iOS 8 was/is being written. People learn very differently. Because so many are still using seriously outdated phones, the iPhone can be a huge learning curve. Hel, I can say first hand that when I got my 3GS what seems eons ago, even I benefited from and was glad to have written guides and tutorials. Not everyone has the luxury or wants to go to an A T trainer to learn how to use their new iPhone; while some do. Fact is, for lots the iPhone isn't as intuitive as it might seem for others. Not everyone is willing or able to play with something to figure it out. Just like there are those who move to a new area and require an O&M trainer to learn how to get to the store and the like, rather than being willing to explore on their own and get lost in order to learn. Personally, while I won't be buying the book, (because I prefer to get used to the changes by using my phone on a daily basis,) I will continue to recommend it to customers who come to me in search of resources to help them to use their new iPhone. I have been at conventions and witnessed first hand the frustration of people who have had their phones for six months and cannot figure out how to use it and don't know where to turn. This is especially true as many seniors are now going into the iPhone world. It seems like what this comes down to is a matter of disliking someone. That's all well and good if that's how you feel, but then, just don't purchase. Did I really just see the word parasite in an earlier message? Do we really need to attack both the trolls that flame and the person who's trying to provide the service? Peace, Amy Billman Email: [email protected] Connect with me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amybillman From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 12:56 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Pre-orders now open for iOS 8 Without the Eye Hi everyone, I'm conscious that both our moderators are probably sleeping right now, and having moderated email lists over many years, I know what an unpleasant feeling it is to wake up to a list that's gone off the rails. So in an attempt to prevent that from happening, I thought I would add a few comments. It's not my intension to respond to personal attacks, however there are some substantive issues that may be helpful. First, my book, "iOS 8 Without the Eye" is by no means the only game in town for getting information about iOS 8 when it comes out. An excellent free source of information will be Applevis, a site of which I am a huge fan. You can be sure that free resources from there will include blog posts and podcasts. There are sure to be other places as well. I wrote iOS 7 Without the Eye last year because I got feedback that there was a need for it. As some of you may know, I've produced literally hundreds of hours at least of audio tutorials on a wide range of subjects, a few of which are in fact on Applevis. I also continue to get very kind feedback about the FSCasts I have done over the years on iTunes. Many people like to be talked through an application or operating system, hearing what the speech is doing. People who learn best this way are big fans of podcasts, if they're produced well. Equally, I hear from people who say that they prefer to learn from a book. I've done a few audio presentations since starting Mosen Consulting, but books like Tweeting Blind and the iOS without the Eye series have been well received because they're in writing. So rather than do an audio version of iOS 8 Without the Eye, I decided that audio was well covered and that I'd focus on text. Yes, you'll be able to get textual help via a range of sources, and some people will be happy installing the OS and discovering things for themselves, sharing their discoveries on a range of forums. But last year, we sold thousands of copies of the book. What that showed me was that some people prefer to have a coherent, consistent, comprehensive guide, written by a technical writer who can explain the concepts. The book is a work in progress right now, but already we're hitting the 25,000 word mark, about 63 pages in Microsoft Word and growing. It has been peer reviewed by a number of fellow testers, to make sure that I'm explaining things clearly enough, and that I've not left things out. It has already had its first draft sent to a copy editor, who has gone through it meticulously for readability and other factors. Each chapter has been carefully crafted, tweaked, and tweaked some more. That will continue to happen right up until iOS 8 release day. So I don't claim to have a monopoly on this knowledge. What I can promise you is that I've put many hours into writing all this up, explaining it as clearly as possible, and making sure it all jells. That will be worth 20 bucks to some of you, and it won't to others of you. That's the market for you. If there's no longer a need for the book, no one will buy it, and that will tell me whether I should do it again for iOS 9. All I have to serve as a guide about the need is the thousands that were bought last year. This list is a microcosm of the entire blind iPhone using community. Some people are experts, some are still struggling with the iPhone and find the prospect of a bunch of new and changed features daunting. Many experts will want this book because they'd prefer to invest in a tool that gets them going quickly, others will think it's a waste of their money. Many novice users, I suspect, will be glad to have someone they may know from elsewhere helping them through some new things. So if it helps you, consider the book. If it doesn't, please enjoy and support the many great contributors to our community, for which I'm sure many of us are grateful. And in fact, there's really no reason not to do both of those things if both options will be helpful to you. Thanks everyone. 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