What do you mean when you say that you wish braille displays could be more independent of VoiceOver speech? You can turn speech off and just use braille.
Thanks, Ari > On Sep 11, 2014, at 1:04 PM, "Flor Lynch" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Braille displays are under the control of voiceover, and as such are not > Bluetooth keyboards per se. (They are Bluetooth 'devices'. Therefore, unless > the Bluetooth situation overall is bad, I don't think the problems will > extend to that use which, as i indicate, is controlled generally by voiceover > and its Braille settings. Hoping that voiceover itself is not rendered > buggy!) What i will say, is, that i would like to see Braille displays being > a bit less dependent on Voiceover speech settings. (Up to now, or at least in > iOS7, speech is as No. 1; braille is No. 2.) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sieghard Weitzel > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:09 PM > Subject: RE: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 > > I am not a braille user, but there are definitely some bluetooth keyboard > issues which are not pretty. If you rely on a bluetooth keyboard heavily I > would wait just a bit to see what happens. > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jane > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 7:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 > > Hi. :) > > I missed that part. I don't always read descriptions as thoroughly as i > should. I am as guilty as the next guy of skipping over them, or only hearing > small parts of them. > > I keep hearing rumors that if we use bluetooth keyboards, we shoulnt'd upate, > but I don't know if that applies to Refreshable Braille displays. I suppose > you, or no one else really, can say. > > Jane > > > > > On Sep 11, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Jane, > > I don’t think the “Supports only iOS 7” means that it won’t support iOS 8, > but rather that it won’t work on anything before iOS7. There are some apps > which are like that now and over time more of them will not support iOS > versions before iOS 7. If you read the entire description, here is what it > says at the very end: > > Compatibility: > Requires iOS 7.0 or later. > Compatible with iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch. This app is optimized for > iPhone 5. > > Having said that, maybe hold off just a bit before installing iOS 8, doing it > on the first or second day of the release is probably a bad idea anyways > since hundreds of millions of people around the world will try to upgrade and > Apple’s servers will be totally bogged down. Also you might want to wait > until the first wave of feedback comes in. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jane > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Knitting Apps Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 > > Its called Knit. I use it to keep track of projects. You put in a project > name, you add the number of rows for the project. You can even add the number > of stitches per row, if you want to keep that close track. Here's the iTunes > store link: > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/knit-knitting-counter-for-ios/id473675243?mt=8 > > some of it is labeled really well. For instance, you can pick the right kind > of picture to put for each project because they are clearly and correctly > labeled. I know this because I had my sighted child check. She is a > knitting/crocheting fan like I am, and this is her favorite. > > Some of it, like the button you hit to add rows when you complete it, are not > so well labeled. You will probably want to re-label the "iPad plus off" > button to something easier to remember. LOL! > > There's also Counter+ but I haven't figured out how that works so well. Here > is the iTunes store link: > > https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/counter-+/id478557426?mt=8 > > > > > On Sep 11, 2014, at 8:11 AM, Edmonds, Lucy (LARA) <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hi. What is the knitting app? I’m interested! > Lucy Edmonds > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jane > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:09 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 > > Hi, Ron. > > I guess I will have to hold off, then. I just found the neatest knitting app, > but it only works under IOS7 and I don't know if they will re-release it. I > hate having to choose between updating and losing apps. On the other hand, I > promised someone I would update to see if a certain language was supported. > *shakes head* > > Jane > > > > > On Sep 10, 2014, at 10:08 PM, Ron Pelletier <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > Jane, > > If we go with the past,chances are that you won’t be able to downgrade unless > Apple offers that possibility but, its not a guarantee they will. > > Ron & Danvers > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Jane > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:29 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Installing IOS 8 over 7 > > How do you save an earlier version? I mean, the version I am currently > running? What if I need to downgrade? > > Jane > > > > > On Sep 10, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If the past is any indication, you just install the update. Your settings and > data stay put, and the only change is the new iOS version. Of course, you > should always do a full backup before any update, just in case something goes > wrong, but most times nothing bad happens. No one has yet updated to > iOS8,obviously, but I see no reason it won't be like the last few major > releases. > On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:48 PM, Lee Jones <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List, when you install a whole new version of IOS are your settings and > data preserved or do you have to start from scratch or from a back up. . > Does it work like minor updates, where you just start the update, the phone > restarts and then comes up talking when it's done? > > Many Thanks, Lee > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. > All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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