Hi Christopher, Thanks for your vote of confidence. I usually try to be as objective I can and to put things into perspective. There is an entire small community of blind people out there who have developer accounts most likely specifically for the reason so they can legitimately play with iOS beta versions and submit bug reports. What bugs me the most (pun intended) is the fact that some of the issues in iOS 8 were there in Beta 1 in June and are still there in the Goldmaster despite the fact that they have been reported and, in my opinion, should be things which could be fixed. Second, it is frustrating that Apple has such an accessible device or group of devices, yet the accessibility of some of their web sites and web services is extremely poor. I am, for example, not able to submit a bug report on the developer website without sighted help and of course iCloud.com is another example.
Lastly, it does appear that the major bugs are very inconsistent. Some people experience issues I don't have and vice versa. A few things are happening for everybody, but others are not and yet some things are even inconsistent for me on my 5S, sometimes I do something and it's a problem and sometimes it is not. Anyhow, I probably have said already more than I should have when I talked about some of these bugs, so enough said for now, more on Wednesday. Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 Remember too that a show stopping bug for one person might be just an an annoyance to another. I know I updated to IOS 7 when it first came out, and I put up with a few annoyances, such as hearing screen lock twice and VoiceOver not being muted when you hit the mute switch. I thought the upgrade was worth it, but there were definitely others on the list who regretted it. I respect Sieghard's opinion though, and he's more critical of the bugs in IOS 8 then he was of the bugs in IOS 7, so I plan to wait to hear more about these bugs myself before upgrading. I may not wait for the fixes, I just need to know more about the bugs. They could very well be in features of the phone I don't use. There's also nothing I've seen in IOS 8 that I can't wait to get my hands on. Alternative keyboards and some other functions are definitely some features I want to look into but nothing I can't wait until November to play with. Once IOS 8 is released on Wednesday, the beta testers won't be bound by their NDA, so we'll hear more details. Plus all of those who grab IOS 8 right away will be able to tell us about their experiences. On 09/14/2014 01:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Hi Lori, > > First of all, yes, any new iDevice will come with iOS 8 preinstalled as > of next Wednesday. > > Will bugs disappear by January? Well, I sure hope so but of course > nobody can say for sure. I would say, however, that it is extremely > likely that the major bugs will be resolved by then. I really wouldn’t > loose any sleep over that at this point. You also might want to ask > yourself whether upgrading from an iPhone 5 to the 6 or 6 Plus is > necessary for you. What problems do you have with your iPhone 5 which > require you to upgrade? If you just want to upgrade because you can > afford it and want the latest then that is of course a good enough > reason, but I think the next generation of the iPhone 6 whether it will > be called the 6S and 6S Plus or something else, will be much improved as > they will be the second generation of larger devices It would be my > guess that the touch screen might be completely made from sapphire > crystal and I really don’t see how Apple will continue with an 8 MP > camera for the fifth year in a row, they will have to put in a much > better camera next year or people will get really upset. Anyhow, these > are just my thoughts. If I was still on a 4S I would totally upgrade, no > question. But with a 5 there wouldn’t be quite as much incentive for > me.they might > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > *From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On > Behalf Of *Lori Dent > *Sent:* Saturday, September 13, 2014 10:24 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: overview of accessibility features in iOS 8 > > Hi Sieghard, > > So what your saying is ios 8 has major bug issues, am I right? If > that's the case,I can't even upgrade my iPhone 5 to a iPhone 6 or 6 > plus until January 2015, when my 2 year contract with at&t is up. Then > I can upgrade to a iPhone 6 or 6 plus.Now do you think apple will have > the bugs in ios 8 fixed and resolved? Also, is ios 8 already installed > on the iphone 6 and 6 plus? > > If the bug fixes are not fixed and resolved by Jannuary 2015, I will > not upgrade my iPhone 5 to either a iPhone 6 or 6 plus until ios 8 bug > issues are fixed and resolved and totally accessable to us blind > individuals . Does this make senxe? 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