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> On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote: > > This is exactly why I have opted for the 6 Plus. My understanding of the > technology match's David's. The problem is that all the reviews out there are > about taking photos the way a sighted person takes photos. Unsurprising given > the vast majority of readers are sighted. I agree, actual comparisons would > be good and KNFB Technologies may be in the best position to help out here, > but apart from the significantly better battery life of the 6 Plus, I'm > putting up with the size because I'm confident I'll get better document scans > with less effort. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org > >> On 21/09/2014, at 1:15 am, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> I'd still like to see comparisons between the 6 and 6 Plus. From the reviews >> I've read, the OIS feature in the Plus seems more for low light than >> anything else, and while it helps, reviewers say it is nice but not a >> game-changer. It may help OCR, it may not; I'd just want comparisons before >> I based my phone-buyng decision on the OIS in the Plus. >>> On Sep 20, 2014, at 8:03 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Actually, both the 6 and the 6+ have features which will help a fair amount >>> for any OCR app. >>> >>> Both new iPhones have special pixels which set the pixels in the area for >>> the lighting/contrast of that particular area. This means the contrast of >>> the page image will improve, which should improve the image for OCR. >>> >>> Second, and more important, is the physical image stabilisation of the 6+ >>> camera. Jitter, or the image blurring because of even slight movement >>> whilst the picture is being taken, is a huge problem for blind people. In >>> fact, the four biggest problems for blind people are distance, jitter, >>> skewing, and tilting of the camera. Physical image stabilisation will >>> automatically correct for the jitter problem if it is minor jitter. This is >>> enough to make a null scan into a partial scan, and a close scan into a >>> good scan. >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 19 Sep 2014, at 04:57, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Eileen, >>>> >>>> If you are going to get KNFB Reader you might as well get it, it is my >>>> guess that the optical image stabilization of the 6 Plus will not make a >>>> huge difference. KNFB Reader already has a lot of built in help to take >>>> the best picture possible and while the 6 and 6 Plus have a new sensor >>>> with slightly larger pixel size, it is still an 8 MP camera and much the >>>> same as on a 5S. >>>> >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> Of Eileen Misrahi >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:08 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: KNFB Reader, First Impressions >>>> >>>> Hello Jonathan, >>>> >>>> >>>> Your first impressions of the KNFB app is encouraging. At this time, I'm >>>> going to have to be on the sidelines until I decide on which iPhone 6 I >>>> will purchase. This is my question to this thread. For those who invest in >>>> the KNFB Reader app and have purchased either an iPhone 6 or 6 plus, it >>>> would be terrific to post on the accuracy of the app in comparison to the >>>> phone that they originally installed the app on. Also, if one can also >>>> comment on the use of the app with the 6 plus in particular because of the >>>> optical stabilization. ANOTHER person read my mind regarding if your use >>>> of the app was with the StandScan or with some other type of stand. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks so much for your first impressions. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Eileen >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Feliciano G <theblindman...@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> It is now available on the app store to download. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, Feliciano >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Like my Facebook page: >>>> https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=690649294341327 >>>> Follow me on Twitter: Www.twitter.com/theblindman12v >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from the Super-iPhone >>>> >>>> On Sep 18, 2014, at 4:19 AM, "BrianMiller" <brianrmille...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Jonathan, >>>> So is the KNFB reader app now available in the app store? >>>> >>>> Also, are you using a stand to take the scans/pics, or are you just >>>> holding the phone over the page or item? >>>> >>>> Thanks so much, this is very encouraging! >>>> >>>> Brian M >>>> >>>> >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>>> OfJonathan Mosen >>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 4:05 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: KNFB Reader, First Impressions >>>> >>>> I've spent the last half hour or so playing with KNFB Reader on my iPhone >>>> 5s. I couldn't be more impressed. >>>> I read my son's school report, which it got word perfect even when it came >>>> to reading tables. It read a glossy pizza menu fairly well. It read the >>>> page of a book perfectly, and it read a letter I received in the mail. The >>>> feedback one gets via vibration to line up the picture is incredibly >>>> helpful. You can use the field of view report if you need to for even more >>>> information about camera positioning and angle. >>>> And, it's fast. Very fast, between taking a picture and getting speech. >>>> It's early days but this has actually exceeded my expectations. Certainly >>>> it's possible to use other apps, but I've found nothing this simple, fast, >>>> or accurate without any additional aids. Outstanding stuff. >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> http://Mosen.org >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The following information is important for all members of the viphone >>>> list. 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If you have any > questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a > member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators > directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list > can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.hi Jonathan, > Well, I am hoping that something will help. I have so much troublehi Jonathan, > I am so frustrated with using the cayenne if the reader on my iPhone S. It is > a crapshoot if I can get a page aligned correctly. I have yet to be able to > actually read an entire page when the phone is lined up straight. > Hi Jonathan, > I am so frustrated trying to use the K in FB reader. I never can line the > camera up straight with the page. I know that you're supposed to point the > camera to the upper half of the page. > Even when I think I have done so, it's not right. So, I will take you up on > getting an iPhone 6+.I know that you're supposed to have the upper part of > the camera in the upper part of the page. However -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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