4.4 and above on android accessibility is quite good. 4.2 is not bad. Joanne Chua <[email protected]> wrote: >Well, with a $100 androy phone you will find that it is more than >likely is not Talkback comparable, because of whatever overlay that >they have on top of Google Stock Androy, and more than likely will >stop at Androy 4.22, which is a crap Androy OS when come to >accessibility. Yes, you can get it work, but is that really worth it, >that is another issue. >Of course, one could argue that it only cost $100, as compare to >$1000 for an upgrade. If you have that mind set, go ahead, nothing >stopping you on switching over to Androy. >Just bare in mind, whatever phone you choose to get for Androy >platform, make sure you get Androy 4.3 and above. The best entry and >low end level phone for Google Stock Androy is Moto G or Moto E, which >is between $200 and $350 (depending on specific model. > >In another word, Androy is good to see, good to touch, is great as a >secondary phone even. But, not all Androy phones are accessible for >the blind. That is the bottom line of the Androy OS. > >On 22/09/2014, Ari Moisio <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi >> >> On the other had one can get Android phones approx $100 so the >backward >> compatibility is not so important. Also phones with fixed battery >have >> much shorter lifespan because replacing the battery will be >expensive. >> >> >> >> -- >> mr. M01510 & guide Loadstone-GPS >> Lat: 62.38718, lon: 25.64672 >> hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net B784D020 >> 0C1F 6A76 DC9D DD58 3383 8B5D 0E76 9600 B784 D02 >> >> >> David Chittenden kirjoitti >>> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released >>> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 10:47:57 +1200 >>> From: David Chittenden <[email protected]> >>> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> >>> >>> Works with iOS 8 with limitations. Apple does their best to support >older >>> hardware, and does a better job than Google and Microsoft. Good luck >>> getting the latest version "of Android working on a four year old >Android >>> phone. I also used to have similar problems getting new versions of >>> Windows working on four year old computers. >>> >>> The fact is, technology is always changing. Moore's Law states that >device >>> power will double every 18 months. So, a four year old device, such >as an >>> iPhone 4S, is the great grandfather to the iphone 6 (three >generations >>> ago). >>> >>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 21 Sep 2014, at 10:25, Pablo Morales <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> But the official statement from apple, who is who sold those iPhone >4s, >>>> and >>>> who created IOs8, is that IOs 8, works on iPhone 4s. >>>> So, we should not trust in apple? >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of Joanne Chua >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 1:39 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: IOS 8 Released >>>> >>>> Well, first at all, i'm not sure why people will upgrade t heir 4s >to >>>> ios8. >>>> There are some key eatures on ios8 that won't be supported by >iphone 5c >>>> and >>>> below, and some are quite exclusive to 6 and 6+. >>>> And again, all these support or not supported, for which phones and >>>> which >>>> ios, it is not something new. It is the same old same old arguement >from >>>> pretty much the first gen of iphone to now. >>>> People constently have problems reported from an old phone upgraded >to >>>> the >>>> new ios. >>>> It is expected. >>>> Apple does say that ios8 can be install on 4s. But if there is no >>>> slaggishness, then, people won't keep upgrading their phone as the >new >>>> ios >>>> come out, will they. >>>> Apple do that for a reason, they don't just release a new ios out >from >>>> no >>>> where, just because they can. >>>> >>>> If you want to upgrade, that is your choice. But be prepare for te >>>> slaggishness. And, if you do upgrade for a 4s to ios8, and knowing >very >>>> well >>>> that there are problems, stop complaining about it either... >>>> >>>>> On 20/09/2014, Christopher Chaltain <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> I'm not exactly sure what you're saying. I've seen posts to this >list >>>>> where people have said their 4S's are running sluggishly with IOS >8 >>>>> and others who claim it's just fine. The bottom line though is >that >>>>> the 4S is supported by IOS 8, so it should run just fine, and if >it >>>>> doesn't then Apple needs to fix it. >>>>> >>>>>> On 09/19/2014 09:56 PM, Charles wrote: >>>>>> There have been a lot of reports that it might not work on the >4S. >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think >you're >>>>>> finished, you! really! are! finished! >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> *From:* Nishi <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *To:* [email protected] ><mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:45 AM >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I have a 32gb Iphone 4s and i have updated to Ios 8. >>>>>> .. >>>>>> >>>>>> I must say that i am not happy at all after the update! The >phone >>>>>> is >>>>>> very slow and apps tend to crash a lot! >>>>>> Voice over re starts on its own all the time. Am also having a >>>>>> problem marking mails and moving them to the trash! >>>>>> Over all, i am not happy with the update. I wish u all the >best. >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Nishi.nt from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 18-Sep-2014, at 7:02 pm, Anita <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi list, >>>>>>> How well does IOS 8 work on the iPhone 4S 32 gig? Does it >>>>>>> provide more stability, or work better on newer models? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Anita >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> *From:* Jonathan Mosen <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 17, 2014 1:23 PM >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: IOS 8 Released >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You can, there is also a very thorough bug summary on >>>>>>> Applevis. >>>>>>> The one bug I would add that is not presently in that >article, >>>>>>> is that sometimes answering a call with a two-finger >>>>>>> double-tap after you've been listening to audio will >cause >>>>>>> audio to resume rather than answer the call. 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