Ok ok, where's Raul and his admin hat at this point, which I reckon has gone 
too far.  On my back quick enough, for posting a thank you last time.  So 
why is this being allowed to degenerate to this level of heatied discussion, 
that isn't any longer about our normal range of technical topics.

Enough have had a good say, it must be time to call a halt now?

RobH. :-(
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lynda Ingraham" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: third party keyboard


It’s really too bad that your interpretation of the list rules somehow 
affords you special permission to post such unkind remarks about Sieghard on 
this or any list. There are polite ways to disagree with another list 
members opinion without being snarky. I’m really not interested in your 
pointless attacks on list members whose opinions differ from yours. If you 
thought what you wrote about Sieghard made you look smart and oh so witty, 
it really came across as very shallow and nasty.



I can’t tell you the number of times Sieghard has sent me information off 
list that has been accurate and very helpful. Additionally, I can’t tell you 
how many times he has offered to work with people off the list to solve 
problems. Very important is, I have never seen someone write to the list and 
say the information Sieghard provided was incorrect, created additional 
problems, or just shut their device down.



Regards,



Lynda

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:21 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: third party keyboard



Sieghard ,

This is the reason I almost always delete your messages without reading 
them.

You are full of misguided opinions and misinformation.

The running joke in my household is when voice over announces "Sieghard " 
everyone here says 'Delete".



This is from the developers of Fleksy:




What about the Apple third-party keyboard warning message when allowing Full 
Access?



When you allow full access, you will encounter a warning message stating 
"full access allows the developer to transmit anything you type, including 
things you have previously typed with this keyboard. This could include 
sensitive information such as your credit card number or street address." 
This alert appears whenever any third-party input method is allowed full 
access. Fleksy is designed NOT to receive or log such sensitive data.

Here’s how:

§  Fleksy can collect three types of data:

§  Crash Data, including crash logs, in an anonymous format.

§  Settings Data such as setting preferences, gesture usage, and number of 
words typed with Fleksy.

§  Language Modeling Data such as common phrases or words that you use when 
typing with Fleksy.

§  We never collect any type of data without your explicit permission.

§  Language Modeling Data collection is disabled by default for all our 
products, and is not enabled during the installation process.

§  We do not log data entered into password or credit card fields.

§  When a user voluntarily opts in to supply Language Modeling Data to us, 
we always encrypt it both for transmission and storage, and host it in third 
party hosting facilities with industry leading security infrastructure.

§  We do NOT link any Language Modeling Data with your name, phone number, 
email address, or any other personal identifier.

§  Language Modeling Data is only used in anonymous format to help improve 
Fleksy’s product and services. It is NOT sold, licensed or otherwise 
provided to third parties.


You can read more about data collection and full access in our 
<http://fleksy.com/privacy-ios> Privacy Policy.











Sieghard

On Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:55:01 PM UTC-7, Sieghard wrote:

Hi Chuck and others,

I don't know if you get the same warning when you  install Fleksie, but on 
the last Today in iOS episode, Rob mentioned that when you install some 
third party keyboards a rather worrysome message is displayed. According to 
this message, you give the developer of these keyboards "full access" to 
anything that is typed on said keyboards and the warning for one popular 
keyboard called "Swift Key" includes this:
"allows the developer of this keyboard to transmit anything you type…”

Interestingly enough the keyboards mentioned didn't even include Fleksie and 
I wonder how popular Fleksie really is. Here is the link to another article 
about this, but I certainly would not install a keyboard where I got such a 
message. I have an iPhone because I like how secure it is so then why would 
I allow some developer whom I don't know from a hole in the ground to have 
access to everything I might type on their keyboard including potentially 
credit card numbers and so on. I think maybe that is the reason why Apple 
defaults to their system keyboard for passwords and so on.

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/09/ios-8-third-party-keyboards-full-access-privacy-concerns.html


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] <javascript:>  [mailto:[email protected] 
<javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:20 AM
To: [email protected] <javascript:>
Subject: Re: third party keyboard

Fleksy will be a great keyboard, once they get the bugs out of IOS8. Here's 
a link:Fleksy Keyboard - Custom Colors, Faster Typing by Fleksy, Inc.
https://appsto.re/us/ED7aF.i

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