Chuck, I feel you owe Sieghard an apology. I have been on this list for a long time and read almost all the emails that come to this list. As far as I am concerned Sieghard has help me numerous times on and off list. He has also assisted many other people on this list. So I don’t know where you get off putting him down. He might have his own opinion just like you do and that is his right just as it is yours. I know you won’t apologyes as I can tell by your emails on this list what kind of person you are by the way you have answered some emails. If you do apologyes then it would show what kind of man you are.
Ed From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: third party keyboard Chuck, I posted about a warning regarding third-party keyboards I heard about on the Today in iOS Podcast. If you feel that what I said was misguided and that I was attempting to misinform people than that is of course your right and the same applies to how you feel about my messages in general. I did not make any sort of claim that Fleksie was doing what the warning is warning people about, I merely provided the information and a link to an article where people can read about this and that giving any developer this level of access I something I personally worry about. If you felt I was writing to you privately then maybe you can let me know which screenreader and mail program you are using and I will offer some advice on how you can easily check whether a message comes from the list or from an individual and also how you can make sure your reply goes to where you intend it to go. I am, however, glad that you have mastered the use of the delete key and I would in fact recommend you set up a filter so that any messages which come from me go straight to your Trash mailbox and that way you won’t ever have to worry about them. Regards, Sieghard From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: third party keyboard Please reread my post. I never use the word worthless. I thought this was a private message from Seegert it was addressed to me. Chuck (mobile) Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores. On Oct 26, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote: For what it's worth, I've gotten some good information from Sieghard, and seen him provide tons of help to users newer to iOS than I. Saying that nearly everything he sends is worthy only of being deleted is not only against the rules of this list, it's simply inaccurate. Maybe you already know most of what he says, but that's very different from saying that it is all worthless. As to Fleksy, this warning is indeed disconcerting. Even if you take everything Fleksy says at face value, what if they were ever hacked? What if a mistake in their code allowed users to be linked to the supposedly anonymous data? Unlikely? Of course, but definitely possible, given all the high-profile hacks lately. On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:20 PM, Chuck Dean <[email protected]> wrote: Sieghard , This is the reason I almost always delete your messages without reading them. You are full of misguided opinions and misinformation. The running joke in my household is when voice over announces "Sieghard " everyone here says 'Delete". This is from the developers of Fleksy: What about the Apple third-party keyboard warning message when allowing Full Access? When you allow full access, you will encounter a warning message stating "full access allows the developer to transmit anything you type, including things you have previously typed with this keyboard. This could include sensitive information such as your credit card number or street address." This alert appears whenever any third-party input method is allowed full access. Fleksy is designed NOT to receive or log such sensitive data. Here’s how: § Fleksy can collect three types of data: § Crash Data, including crash logs, in an anonymous format. § Settings Data such as setting preferences, gesture usage, and number of words typed with Fleksy. § Language Modeling Data such as common phrases or words that you use when typing with Fleksy. § We never collect any type of data without your explicit permission. § Language Modeling Data collection is disabled by default for all our products, and is not enabled during the installation process. § We do not log data entered into password or credit card fields. § When a user voluntarily opts in to supply Language Modeling Data to us, we always encrypt it both for transmission and storage, and host it in third party hosting facilities with industry leading security infrastructure. § We do NOT link any Language Modeling Data with your name, phone number, email address, or any other personal identifier. § Language Modeling Data is only used in anonymous format to help improve Fleksy’s product and services. It is NOT sold, licensed or otherwise provided to third parties. You can read more about data collection and full access in our <http://fleksy.com/privacy-ios> Privacy Policy. Sieghard On Sunday, October 26, 2014 12:55:01 PM UTC-7, Sieghard wrote: Hi Chuck and others, I don't know if you get the same warning when you install Fleksie, but on the last Today in iOS episode, Rob mentioned that when you install some third party keyboards a rather worrysome message is displayed. According to this message, you give the developer of these keyboards "full access" to anything that is typed on said keyboards and the warning for one popular keyboard called "Swift Key" includes this: "allows the developer of this keyboard to transmit anything you type…” Interestingly enough the keyboards mentioned didn't even include Fleksie and I wonder how popular Fleksie really is. Here is the link to another article about this, but I certainly would not install a keyboard where I got such a message. I have an iPhone because I like how secure it is so then why would I allow some developer whom I don't know from a hole in the ground to have access to everything I might type on their keyboard including potentially credit card numbers and so on. I think maybe that is the reason why Apple defaults to their system keyboard for passwords and so on. http://www.iphonehacks.com/2014/09/ios-8-third-party-keyboards-full-access-privacy-concerns.html Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <javascript:> [mailto:[email protected] <javascript:> ] On Behalf Of Chuck Dean Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 9:20 AM To: [email protected] <javascript:> Subject: Re: third party keyboard Fleksy will be a great keyboard, once they get the bugs out of IOS8. Here's a link:Fleksy Keyboard - Custom Colors, Faster Typing by Fleksy, Inc. https://appsto.re/us/ED7aF.i -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. 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