Hi Charles, I haven't used the sidebar since iTunes 11 first came out because I find it much more efficient the way it is now and especially in iTunes 12 every item which previously was in the sidebar except the device section has shortcut keys so in that respect iTunes 12 is as good as it has ever been because in iTunes 11 only some of these shortcut keys worked. In any case, when iTunes 11 was first released some people were complaining in the same way why things weren left alone and stayed like they were in iTunes 10.
Anyhow, we do get your point, you said it at least 5 times *smile*: If it ain't broke don't fix it. Oh, I can think of some applications from the Windows 98 days which were great and which disappeared with Windows XP, but such is life and while things may not be broke, they still are being changed although you can't call change fixing things and as I said before, just because something which worked previously isn't working so good any more now for us blind folks, that doesn't mean sighted people don't love it and there are more of them out there than there are blind people. Take care, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 10:22 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked like in itunes 11 I do like iTunes 12, now that I can find out what's new in apps I am about to upgrade. Although I do wish that the side bar be returned, I can live without it. My complaints about unnecessary changes, though, deal with issues such as doing away with pull-down menus and replacing them with ribbon menus, and doing away with perfectly good Email clients such as Outlook Express, as well as changing the way that sounds are handled by an operating system that make programs that you pay good money for, or even free ones, no longer work. Games that blind gamers bought, that work very well with XP no longer work with higher operating systems due to the sound processing changes that were unnecessarily made. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it to the point of being broken. --- Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neal Ewers" <neal.ew...@ravenswood.org> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 11:49 AM Subject: RE: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked like in itunes 11 As a matter of fact, many of my sighted friends much prefer iTunes 12 over iTunes 11. So, to say it does not work as well is not to consider the number of people who like it better. And, in addition, as some have pointed out, it works quite well. It's just different. One thing you can be sure of. Change happens. I think people's arguments would be more soundly based were iTunes 12 to be inaccessible to people who are blind. But, it isn't. Neal -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 8:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that worked like in itunes 11 True, but iTunes 12 works. So do the follow ons to Windows XP. Change doesn't automatically mean that it doesn't work or that it's unstable. In fact, sometimes change is good and things actually improve over time. On 11/09/2014 07:52 AM, Charles Rivard wrote: > Why change from something that works and remains stable to something > that doesn't and isn't? To me, to remain competitive, it must, first > of all, work. > > --- > Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're > finished, you! really! are! finished! > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" > <chalt...@gmail.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 4:56 AM > Subject: Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things that > worked like in itunes 11 > > > IMHO, the phrase "change for changes sake" is one of those worn out > terms that people trot out when they don't like some change or don't > take the time to understand it. How many people who have used this > term with respect to iTunes 12 have Googled to find out why Apple made > the changes they did? > > I also find it interesting how many people know more about software > development and marketing than Apple and Microsoft do. I can assure > you that these companies aren't making these changes just to keep > their developers busy and put out changes just to trick the customers > into thinking they're doing something and adding value. I'm also sure > they have more people looking at software trends, studying the market, > developing new technologies and doing product planning than all of the > amateur marketeers on this list. Furthermore, the future of these > companies depend on this forward thinking, whereas none of us on this > list have anything to lose if our opinions are off the mark. > > Sure there are people out there who liked Windows XP and wish > Microsoft had never changed, but these people would be happy only > until Microsoft went out of business for not being able to remain > competitive and then they were forced to move to something else. I was > a happy Symbian user on Nokia, but I had to switch when that platform > was dropped because it was no longer competitive with IOS and Android. > I'm also sure there are or were some happy Blackberry users out there > who've had to or will have to find a new home. Sure there are some > things I miss about Symbian, but I wouldn't go back now that I've used > both IOS and Android. > > I also just haven't found some of these changes to be as significant > as some people would make you think. I didn't even realize I'd updated > to iTunes 12 until I saw the discussions on this list. I was still > able to backup my iPhone and install IOS 8.. I even reset my iPhone > back to the factory settings, restored everything and resynced all of > my music and apps with iTunes 12. Ditto for Windows. I've always been > surprised how much Vista, Seven and now Eight, look like XP after > hearing all of the gnashing of teeth over how much has changed. Sure > there's been a learning curve, but I've never had any trouble figuring > out how to do what I needed to do. Makes me wonder how many people use > these terms like "change for changes sake" or "dumbing down the > interface" are just parroting what they've heard or have actually even > tried the application they're criticizing. > > On 11/08/2014 10:49 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: >> To remain competitive, I would stay with something dependable and >> stable that continues to withstand the test of time. Chess is a good >> example. >> Even after a few thousand years, it's still one of the best strategy >> games for two players, and the rules of the game haven't been changed >> all that much. Why haven't they? Because the game works as it is >> designed to. On the other hand, companies like Microsoft are always >> having issues with their new fangled, newly designed, current >> operating systems when they had a perfectly good system, namely Windows >> XP. >> However, they would rather stay current and innovative, as well as >> less dependable and accessible than before. >> >> --- >> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >> finished, you! really! are! finished! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> *Sent:* Saturday, November 08, 2014 8:29 PM >> *Subject:* Re: how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things >> that worked like in itunes 11 >> >> Interestingly, you only feel this way when the product works >> perfectly for your specific needs. On the other hand, even when the >> product meets other people's needs, but it doesn't meet your needs, >> you want the product to be changed. The fact is, other people have >> different needs, and to remain competitiv:, companies need to change >> to remain viable, competitiv:, and alive. Think about it, how many >> apps on the app store have not been upgraded and are now effectively >> dead? How many apps are no longer available because the creator has >> gone on to other things? >> >> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com> >> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 9 Nov 2014, at 14:28, Charles Rivard <wee1s...@fidnet.com >> <mailto:wee1s...@fidnet.com>> wrote: >> >>> I totally agree. If it ain't broke, quit fixing it!! Adding new >>> features is OK, but don't remove what works well, and don't change >>> the layout so drastically that it doesn't even resemble what >>> really works well. In my opinion, changing something just because >>> you feel that it is time to do so, whether it be to antiquity or >>> to appear to stay current, makes no sense to me at all. >>> >>> --- >>> Be positive! When it comes to being defeated, if you think you're >>> finished, you! really! are! finished! >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* Fanus <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 10:47 AM >>> *Subject:* how to sync apps with iTunes 12: why change things >>> that worked like in itunes 11 >>> >>> Hello list >>> I wonder why companies always change stuff that worked. I try >>> to transfer apps to my iPhone with iTunes 12 but there is no >>> "sync" button and I can't check and uncheck the apps in the >>> list. ITunes 11 worked so well, so I am always wondering why >>> change something that works? >>> Regards >>> Fanus >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the >>> viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated >>> by default. 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