Hi Jessica,

I apologize for disagreeing with you. This is like having to turn Voiceover off 
to tap the End Call button or whatever it was you said the other day. There are 
a lot of people o the list including myself who are completely blind and who 
move apps with Voiceover just fine. Yes, there is one bug and that is effecting 
apps in the last row above the dock. For me 2 of the 4 apps in that row can't 
be moved, for others none of them can't be moved. But I can move all other apps 
either to other spots on the home screen, to other home screens or into folders 
and positively saying that it can't be done unless you turn off Voiceover is 
not correct information. I assume it is possible that somebody's phone may have 
other issues just as some people say they can't clear notifications by triple 
tapping the Confirm clear section button or double tapping it twice. Either 
method does it for me and for most, but apparently for some it doesn't.


Regards,
Sieghard

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Jessica Dail
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:55 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: is 8.1.1 has been released

Yes. In order to move apps, one must find where they want the app to go, 
remember that spot, turn off voice over, drag the app to the new location, then 
turn voiceover back on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 18, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Mary Anne Lynskey <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I still can't move apps consistently. Anyone else noticed this?
> 
> Mary Anne
>> On 11/17/2014 3:56 PM, Dave Mitchel wrote:
>> Eden, the update fixes those problems. first things I noticed were those 
>> fixed and more response
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Eden Kizer
>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:53 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released
>> 
>> I certainly want to fix these problems because it will lock when
>> Voice-over speaks, and Siri often doesn't finish what she's saying.
>> 
>> Eden
>>> On 11/17/2014 11:46 AM, Wayne Merritt wrote:
>>> For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by AppleVis:
>>> 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of
>>> VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the initial
>>> release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer have to
>>> resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do simple things
>>> such as opening email attachments or making purchases from the Amazon
>>> Mobile app.
>>>  2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all
>>> commands/responses appear to be spoken fully.
>>>  3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push notification
>>> is received, even when the device is locked.
>>>  4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming phone 
>>> calls.
>>>  5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback
>>> when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call.
>>>  6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the screen
>>> from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking.
>>>  7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the "Details"
>>> screen of message threads that contain attachments.
>>> 
>>> It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S
>>> and the older iPads.
>>> 
>>> Wayne
>>> 
>>>> On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Subject says it, just use the usual precautions:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes
>>>> 
>>>> 2. Make sure all apps are updated
>>>> 
>>>> 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your phone by
>>>> turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings which will
>>>> also reboot your phone.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Happy updating,
>>>> 
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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