Hi John, I think this is one case where you have your opinion and we have ours and we'll just have to agree that we disagree. Not much point in saying you are right since there is no way to proof that it is so. Just because you never had problems with an upgrade not doing this doesn't mean somebody who had problems might not have avoided them by doing it. It's a bit like upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8. Microsoft may make it possible to upgrade, but I would never do it and the only way I ever upgrade from one major version of Windows to another is by doing a complete fresh install and in the same way I will always do a Reset All Network Settings or at least a reboot of my device after removing all apps from the app switcher before doing any sort of iOS update.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Diakogeorgiou Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released Alan I disagree. resetting the network settings makes no difference. On 11/18/14, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: > Sieghard, > > You're preaching to the choir here. I agree that your suggestions are wise > to follow when doing an iOS upgrade. I've experienced the disaster when > helping a friend upgrade to iOS 7 through iTunes and it didn't take and > required her to reset her phone and start over. Anything that might avoid > this problem is certainly worth a few minutes of inconvenience when > resetting wi-fi passwords. > > Alan > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 10:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released > > Hi Alan, > > Yes, if you use 5 or 6 different WiFi networks then that could be > inconvenient. I mostly use my Home WiFi and my work WiFi and a couple of > times a year I visit my parents and may use theirs or that of a friend. I > don't find entering 3 or 4 WiFi passwords very inconvenient, but everybody > is different and for some it may be a daunting task knowing they have to > reconnect to even just their own home WiFi. In this case removing all apps > from the app switcher and at least shutting down the phone for 30 seconds > and turning it back on is a good compromise. I know a couple people here > said they don't even close out their apps when they upgrade. All I can say > here is to each their own. I have heard a lot of stories where people > upgraded without doing any of the recommended things and they end up with > horrible battery life, unexpected crashes or other weird inconsistancies. I > am just not prepared to risk that especially since doing even the Reset all > Network settings at best takes 2 or 3 minutes. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Alan Lemly > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 8:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Resetting Network Settings was RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released > > Sieghard, I assume that resetting network settings will also cause you to > lose all wi-fi password settings for any previous networks you've logged on > to. If one moves around a lot to many different wi-fi networks, losing this > can be a major inconvenience. Obviously, the cost of this inconvenience > must > be weighed against any benefit this network reset offers when upgrading. > > Alan Lemly > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 10:14 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: iOS 8.1.1 has been released > > Hi Christina and Eden, > > The least one should do before an update is to remove all apps from the app > switcher and to turn off the phone, wait 30 seconds and turn it back on. > This is just good practice because an iPhone which has not been rebooted > for > a long time can have stuff in memory and so on which may negatively impact > an iOS update. Doing a Reset all Network Settings in Settings, General, > Reset does in fact not delete any networks, but it will as the name > indicates "reset" all network modems to factory settings and it will delete > your WiFi password which means after you reboot the phone you have to go to > Settings, WiFi and reconnect to your WiFi. However, it will also clear out > anything which potentially could effect an update from memory and it is > something some people who know a thing about iOS recommend. It's not > strictly necessary, but while I have often read on the list how people had > problems where an update didn't complete or really messed up the phone, I > have never in 5 years had a single problem with an update not going > perfectly smooth and I do follow my own advice here. > > > Regards, > sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Eden Kizer > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 12:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iOS 8.1.1 has been released > > Yes, i don't want to do any of these things either, I am too new at this to > want to be resetting networks and stuff, and my bf has no clue about this > stuff as he does not own an IDevice, but he is sighted. > > eden > On 11/17/2014 12:54 PM, Christina wrote: >> In layman's terms, why is this helpful or important to do before an > update? Thanks. I have never done this before an update. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Christopher Hallsworth > <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Reset network settings delete all networks set up on your device as >>> well > as reset carrier specific settings on iPhone and probably iPad > wifi+cellular. >>> >>>> On 17/11/2014 20:38, Christina wrote: >>>> What does the reset network settings do? Also, thanks for letting me > know about the voiceover improvement. I am so excited about those fixes. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For those wondering, here are the accessibility fixes mentioned by > AppleVis: >>>>> 1. The screen now correctly scrolls to follow the movement of >>>>> VoiceOver focus. This has been a significant problem since the >>>>> initial release of iOS 8, and means that VoiceOver users no longer >>>>> have to resort to 3-finger swiping and locating by touch to do >>>>> simple things such as opening email attachments or making purchases >>>>> from the Amazon Mobile app. >>>>> 2. Siri now functions correctly when used with VoiceOver, and all >>>>> commands/responses appear to be spoken fully. >>>>> 3. VoiceOver now consistently announces when a new push >>>>> notification is received, even when the device is locked. >>>>> 4. VoiceOver now automatically reads the Caller ID for incoming >>>>> phone > calls. >>>>> 5. If your iPhone is muted, VoiceOver once again provides feedback >>>>> when you touch or swipe the screen when there is an incoming call. >>>>> 6. It appears as though some work has been done to prevent the >>>>> screen from auto-locking while VoiceOver is speaking. >>>>> 7. VoiceOver appears to perform better when navigating the "Details" >>>>> screen of message threads that contain attachments. >>>>> >>>>> It looks like among other things, 8.1.1 should run better on the 4S >>>>> and the older iPads. >>>>> >>>>> Wayne >>>>> >>>>>> On 11/17/14, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: >>>>>> Subject says it, just use the usual precautions: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. Sync and backup your phone either to iCloud or iTunes >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. Make sure all apps are updated >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Remove all apps from the app switcher and at least reboot your > phone by >>>>>> turning it off and on again or do a Reset all Network settings >>>>>> which > will >>>>>> also reboot your phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Happy updating, >>>>>> >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the >>>>>> viphone > list. >>>>>> All new members to the this list are moderated by default. 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