On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Dan Wing <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Leslie [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 2:44 AM >> To: Dan Wing >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [vmeet] in-person and remote attendees: all or nothing? >> >> Dan Wing <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > How can we best handle both in-person and remote attendees? Remote >> > attendees get frustrated with speakers/chairs using visual queues or >> > pointing at slides, >> >> There are many whiteboard facilities within conferencing software >> which can reduce those problems. >> >> But the learning curve for them is substantial enough that most >> folks >> haven't learned to use them. :^( >> >> In which case, the remote participant needs to speak up! > > That reduces the efficiency of the meeting for the in-person attendees -- > because what you are suggesting is that the speaker learn the white > boarding software (right then and there) or the speaker avoid > whiteboarding entirely. > > And many get muted because of heavy breathing, automobile noises, > dogs barking in the background, and so on. > >> > while in-person attendees are frustrated with remote speakers that >> > don't pause when the entire room is confused by their presentation >> > (and cannot see the frowning). >> >> Though the exact details aren't fully clear, > > Maybe it's just me, but when I give a presentation and a majority of > the attendees look confused, I back up and try explaining in a > different way. A remote attendee has little chance for that feedback. > >> we certainly could >> imagine a video feed to the remote participant _showing_ the confusion. >> >> > In my company, for some meetings, we have switched to have 100% in- >> person >> > attendees or 100% remote attendees, which seems to resolve several of >> the >> > issues. >> >> I wouldn't want to retreat that far. We can't seem to get all the >> players to physically attend IETF weeks. >> >> Furthermore, IMHO, all-remote meetings become exhausting after about >> 45 minutes. > > Why is that, do you suppose?
Well, I don't know about the 45 minute rule, but they do become exhausting after a while. I think that that is partially that, if you are in the room, you can dial your attention up or down, while remotely (at least, without some sort of telepresence), you have to pay pretty much constant attention or you get lost, and that does get exhausting. Regards Marshall > > -d > > > _______________________________________________ > NOTE WELL: This list operates according to > http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet
