> >>> while in-person attendees are frustrated with remote speakers that > >>> don't pause when the entire room is confused by their presentation > >>> (and cannot see the frowning). > >> > >> Though the exact details aren't fully clear, > > > > Maybe it's just me, but when I give a presentation and a majority of > > the attendees look confused, I back up and try explaining in a > > different way. A remote attendee has little chance for that > > feedback. > > Umm... read the rest of my sentence... > > >> we certainly could imagine a video feed to the remote participant > >> _showing_ the confusion. > > Alas, some presenters just slog on. :^( > > It might help to have, in addition to the "I have a question" > button, > another "I'm too confused to even ask a question" button. > > Local _participants_ should be able to manage such buttons.
They do -- by the "deer in headlights" look, by opening laptops or phones and surfing the Internet, take a break outside the room, napping, etc. > Perhaps we should try for a requirement like: > > - a remote presenter must be given feedback showing when participants > aren't able to follow his presentation. I have used two different conferencing systems with 'raise hand' functionality. That isn't quite the right model, IMO. But, yes, we should capture some sort of requirement like what you wrote. > > >>> In my company, for some meetings, we have switched to have 100% in- > >>> person attendees or 100% remote attendees, which seems to resolve > >>> several of the issues. > >> > >> I wouldn't want to retreat that far. We can't seem to get all the > >> players to physically attend IETF weeks. > >> > >> Furthermore, IMHO, all-remote meetings become exhausting after about > >> 45 minutes. > > > > Why is that, do you suppose? > > Perhaps it has to do with the lack of informal communication with > the folks sitting next to you? > > I may be an outlier here: I tend to be taking semi-official notes at > all-remote meetings, and that all by itself gets tiring after 45 > minutes. > > But I think some of it is related to the unnatural audio. You have > to distinguish speakers without any spatial clues showing where > physically > the sound originates. (If anyone can help, we're struggling with that > on the CLUE list right now...) -d _______________________________________________ NOTE WELL: This list operates according to http://mipassoc.org/dkim/ietf-list-rules.html. https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/vmeet
