That is a very small spool allocation and sometimes dumps are nice to have. You 
need to consider adding spool space if you have the dasd to do so. 

Regards,
Richard Schuh


> -----Original Message-----
> From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Randy Dray
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:19 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help BINGO!!!!!!! - now we are on to
> something!
> 
> 
> q alloc spool                                        
>             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %  
> VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED  
> ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----  
> 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26770  31680  83%  
>                           ------ ------        ----  
> SUMMARY                    32040  26770         83%  
> USABLE                     32040  26770         83%  
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:17 
>                          
> set dump off                                         
> No dump unit - Dump function is SET OFF              
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:22  
>                         
> q alloc spool                                        
>             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %  
> VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED  
> ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----  
> 440RES 0600     79    256  32040   7993  31680  24%  
>                           ------ ------        ----  
> SUMMARY                    32040   7993         24%  
> USABLE                     32040   7993         24%  
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:27   
> 
> 
> 
> Next
> 
> 
> I set dump dasd and the % went down to 72%
> 
> What next????
> 
> 
> set dump dasd                                        
> DASD 0600 dump unit CP IPL pages 15136               
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:12:26                          
> q alloc spool                                        
>             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %  
> VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED  
> ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----  
> 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  23129  31680  72%  
>                           ------ ------        ----  
> SUMMARY                    32040  23129         72%  
> USABLE                     32040  23129         72%  
> Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:12:38                          
> 
> 
> 
>                        
> 
> --- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Randy,
> > 
> > You can't transfer an open file.
> > 
> > Have you tried SET DUMP OFF and checked the
> > allocation again?
> > 
> > You can turn the dumps back on with SET DUMP DASD
> > 
> > Ron 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Randy Dray
> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:39 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help
> > 
> > Thanks for the info.
> > 
> > I am trying to locate the file that is causing my
> > spool usage to be
> > 83%????
> > 
> > q alloc spool
> > q alloc spool                                      
> >             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
> > VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
> > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
> > 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26769  31680  83%
> >                           ------ ------        ----
> > SUMMARY                    32040  26769         83%
> > USABLE                     32040  26769         83%
> > 
> > 
> > I thought maybe it was OPERATNS userid, but as you
> > just stated, Most
> > likely not the culprit.
> > 
> > Any suggestions on how to track down the file that
> > is filling up my
> > Spool file.
> > 
> > 
> > We had a power outage 3 weeks ago,  before this
> > outage my spool was at
> > 28%.  Now its 83%.  
> > 
> > pretty sure that they are tied together but cant
> > find it.
> > 
> > 
> > I did a Transfer * rdr all to maint rdr 
> > 
> > then did a rdrlist, purged everything,  Useage still
> > 83 %.
> > 
> > ?????
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > --- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Randy,
> > > 
> > > You would close them with SET DUMP OFF. When you
> > close them they will 
> > > go away, they contain no records at present.
> > > 
> > > These are the spool files preallocated to hold a
> > VM dump, should VM 
> > > ever crash. OPERATNS is the userid from which you
> > would read in the 
> > > dumps.
> > > 
> > > You can run your VM system with DUMP OFF, but if
> > there is ever a 
> > > system abend, you will not have the dump for
> > analyzing the problem 
> > > that caused the abend.
> > > 
> > > Ron
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > > Behalf Of Randy Dray
> > > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:03 AM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help
> > > 
> > > Today I did a Q RDR ALL
> > > 
> > > oWNERID  FILE CLASS REC CPY HOLD DATE  TIME    
> > NAME
> > >  
> > > oPERATNS 0001 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- 
> > > oPERATNS 0002 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- SYS     
> > > CPDUMP
> > >  MAINT 0002 T CON 00000008 001 NONE 11/05 10:39:25
> > >  
> > >   
> > > 
> > > I have 2 fies Class d SYS for OPERATNS???
> > > 
> > > how Do I close these files???
> > > 
> > > Should I transfer them to maint and discard them??
> > > 
> > > Still trying to reduce spool file used.
> > > 
> > > q alloc spool                                     
> > 
> > >             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH   
> > %
> > > VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE
> > USED
> > > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
> > ----
> > > 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26769  31680 
> > 83%
> > >                           ------ ------       
> > ----
> > > SUMMARY                    32040  26769        
> > 83%
> > > USABLE                     32040  26769        
> > 83%
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > 
> > > Randy Dray
> > > Systems Programmer
> > > Morton Buildings Inc.
> > > 
> > > Morton IL
> > > 
> > > (309) 263-6397
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
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> > Randy Dray
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> Morton Buildings Inc.
> 
> Morton IL
> 
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