One thing that bothers me here is that you only have 176 cylinders dedicated to spool. This is a very, very small amount. It looks like you haven't upgraded spool since you installed the system. What IBM gives you is enough to install, but not necessarily enough to run a system with. We have six VM systems and our smallest system has two 3390-3 full-packs dedicated to spool. I would strongly recommend adding another full-pack to your spool space. Check your paging space as well.
Also, open spool files will not show up in CP QUERY <XXX> ALL. You will only see closed spool files. We had a problem some years ago (HPO 5 on a 4381, which will give you a time frame) of spool filling up and the system crashing every Monday night at 10 pm. But nothing showed up in spool. We came to the conclusion that we had a user with an open spool file that was filling up the system, crashing it (HPO would crash when the spool filled up), re-ipling and wiping out the open spool file, so we never did see what was causing the problem. We purchased CA's VMSPOOL, which can let you look at open spool files, and quickly found a user had a fortran program that ran every Monday night, but had errors in it. The printed report put out the errors in an endless loop and by the time spool filled up had 2,500,000 records in just this one file. VMSPOOL is the only tool I know of that lets you look at open spool files and is worth its weight in diamonds for this one feature alone. "Always do right. This will gratify some people and confound the rest." - Mark Twain Gordon W. Wolfe, Ph.D. 425-865-1495 VM Technical Services, The Boeing Company > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Dray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 8:19 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help BINGO!!!!!!! - now we are on > to something! > > q alloc spool > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH % > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- > 440RES 0600 79 256 32040 26770 31680 83% > ------ ------ ---- > SUMMARY 32040 26770 83% > USABLE 32040 26770 83% > Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:17 > > set dump off > No dump unit - Dump function is SET OFF > Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:22 > > q alloc spool > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH % > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- > 440RES 0600 79 256 32040 7993 31680 24% > ------ ------ ---- > SUMMARY 32040 7993 24% > USABLE 32040 7993 24% > Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:27 > > > > Next > > > I set dump dasd and the % went down to 72% > > What next???? > > > set dump dasd > DASD 0600 dump unit CP IPL pages 15136 > Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:12:26 > q alloc spool > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH % > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- > 440RES 0600 79 256 32040 23129 31680 72% > ------ ------ ---- > SUMMARY 32040 23129 72% > USABLE 32040 23129 72% > Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:12:38 > > > > > > --- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Randy, > > > > You can't transfer an open file. > > > > Have you tried SET DUMP OFF and checked the allocation again? > > > > You can turn the dumps back on with SET DUMP DASD > > > > Ron > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Randy Dray > > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:39 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help > > > > Thanks for the info. > > > > I am trying to locate the file that is causing my spool usage to be > > 83%???? > > > > q alloc spool > > q alloc spool > > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH % > > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE USED > > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ---- > > 440RES 0600 79 256 32040 26769 31680 83% > > ------ ------ ---- > > SUMMARY 32040 26769 83% > > USABLE 32040 26769 83% > > > > > > I thought maybe it was OPERATNS userid, but as you just > stated, Most > > likely not the culprit. > > > > Any suggestions on how to track down the file that is filling up my > > Spool file. > > > > > > We had a power outage 3 weeks ago, before this outage my > spool was at > > 28%. Now its 83%. > > > > pretty sure that they are tied together but cant find it. > > > > > > I did a Transfer * rdr all to maint rdr > > > > then did a rdrlist, purged everything, Useage still > > 83 %. > > > > ????? > > > > Thanks, > > > > --- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Randy, > > > > > > You would close them with SET DUMP OFF. When you > > close them they will > > > go away, they contain no records at present. > > > > > > These are the spool files preallocated to hold a > > VM dump, should VM > > > ever crash. OPERATNS is the userid from which you > > would read in the > > > dumps. > > > > > > You can run your VM system with DUMP OFF, but if > > there is ever a > > > system abend, you will not have the dump for > > analyzing the problem > > > that caused the abend. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Dray > > > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:03 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help > > > > > > Today I did a Q RDR ALL > > > > > > oWNERID FILE CLASS REC CPY HOLD DATE TIME > > NAME > > > > > > oPERATNS 0001 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- > > > oPERATNS 0002 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- SYS > > > CPDUMP > > > MAINT 0002 T CON 00000008 001 NONE 11/05 10:39:25 > > > > > > > > > > > > I have 2 fies Class d SYS for OPERATNS??? > > > > > > how Do I close these files??? > > > > > > Should I transfer them to maint and discard them?? > > > > > > Still trying to reduce spool file used. > > > > > > q alloc spool > > > > > EXTENT EXTENT TOTAL PAGES HIGH > > % > > > VOLID RDEV START END PAGES IN USE PAGE > > USED > > > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ > > ---- > > > 440RES 0600 79 256 32040 26769 31680 > > 83% > > > ------ ------ > > ---- > > > SUMMARY 32040 26769 > > 83% > > > USABLE 32040 26769 > > 83% > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Randy Dray > > > Systems Programmer > > > Morton Buildings Inc. > > > > > > Morton IL > > > > > > (309) 263-6397 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ > > > Yahoo! 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