Randy,

You don't clear out a dump file, it is a pre-allocated empty space
intended to hold a system dump if that bad thing ever happens.

As others on the list have said, you need, at least, to allocate more
spool space.

You could run with dumps set off, but I don't, and most everyone on the
list in this thread has said you shouldn't.

To add another spool volume, you will need to understand the difference
between CP OWNED dasd and SYSTEM dasd. They are defined in the SYSTEM
CONFIG file on MAINT's CF1 disk. This leads to the need to understand
the contents of the CF1/CF2/CF3 MAINT minidisks.

If you issue a Q CPOWNED command, you will see the list of dasd owned by
CP. For paging, spooling, temp disk, etc etc to be used by CP, the space
must be formatted and allocated on the volume and on a volume in the
CPOWNED list.

The dasd allocation is done with the ICKDSF command or the CPFMTXA
command, which will call ICKDSF for you.

I can send some console logs of me doing this last year, when I
installed my own z/VM 4.4 system, if you want to see some examples.

Ron

 

-----Original Message-----
From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Randy Dray
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help BINGO!!!!!!! - now we are on to
something!

q alloc spool                                        
            EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %  
VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED  
------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----  
440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26770  31680  83%  
                          ------ ------        ----  
SUMMARY                    32040  26770         83%  
USABLE                     32040  26770         83%  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:17 
                         
set dump off                                         
No dump unit - Dump function is SET OFF              
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:22  
                        
q alloc spool                                        
            EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %  
VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED  
------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----  
440RES 0600     79    256  32040   7993  31680  24%  
                          ------ ------        ----  
SUMMARY                    32040   7993         24%  
USABLE                     32040   7993         24%  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:11:27   



Next


I set dump dasd and the % went down to 72%

What next????


set dump dasd                                        
DASD 0600 dump unit CP IPL pages 15136               
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:12:26                          
q alloc spool                                        
            EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %  
VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED  
------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----  
440RES 0600     79    256  32040  23129  31680  72%  
                          ------ ------        ----  
SUMMARY                    32040  23129         72%  
USABLE                     32040  23129         72%  
Ready; T=0.01/0.01 10:12:38                          



                       

--- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Randy,
> 
> You can't transfer an open file.
> 
> Have you tried SET DUMP OFF and checked the allocation again?
> 
> You can turn the dumps back on with SET DUMP DASD
> 
> Ron
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Randy Dray
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:39 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
> I am trying to locate the file that is causing my spool usage to be 
> 83%????
> 
> q alloc spool
> q alloc spool                                      
>             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH    %
> VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE USED
> ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------ ----
> 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26769  31680  83%
>                           ------ ------        ----
> SUMMARY                    32040  26769         83%
> USABLE                     32040  26769         83%
> 
> 
> I thought maybe it was OPERATNS userid, but as you just stated, Most 
> likely not the culprit.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to track down the file that is filling up my 
> Spool file.
> 
> 
> We had a power outage 3 weeks ago,  before this outage my spool was at

> 28%.  Now its 83%.
> 
> pretty sure that they are tied together but cant find it.
> 
> 
> I did a Transfer * rdr all to maint rdr
> 
> then did a rdrlist, purged everything,  Useage still
> 83 %.
> 
> ?????
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --- "Schmiedge, Ronald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Randy,
> > 
> > You would close them with SET DUMP OFF. When you
> close them they will
> > go away, they contain no records at present.
> > 
> > These are the spool files preallocated to hold a
> VM dump, should VM
> > ever crash. OPERATNS is the userid from which you
> would read in the
> > dumps.
> > 
> > You can run your VM system with DUMP OFF, but if
> there is ever a
> > system abend, you will not have the dump for
> analyzing the problem
> > that caused the abend.
> > 
> > Ron
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Dray
> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:03 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Q alloc SPool Help
> > 
> > Today I did a Q RDR ALL
> > 
> > oWNERID  FILE CLASS REC CPY HOLD DATE  TIME    
> NAME
> >  
> > oPERATNS 0001 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- 
> > oPERATNS 0002 D SYS 000 001 NONE OPEN- SYS     
> > CPDUMP
> >  MAINT 0002 T CON 00000008 001 NONE 11/05 10:39:25
> >  
> >   
> > 
> > I have 2 fies Class d SYS for OPERATNS???
> > 
> > how Do I close these files???
> > 
> > Should I transfer them to maint and discard them??
> > 
> > Still trying to reduce spool file used.
> > 
> > q alloc spool                                     
> 
> >             EXTENT EXTENT  TOTAL  PAGES   HIGH   
> %
> > VOLID  RDEV  START    END  PAGES IN USE   PAGE
> USED
> > ------ ---- ------ ------ ------ ------ ------
> ----
> > 440RES 0600     79    256  32040  26769  31680 
> 83%
> >                           ------ ------       
> ----
> > SUMMARY                    32040  26769        
> 83%
> > USABLE                     32040  26769        
> 83%
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > Randy Dray
> > Systems Programmer
> > Morton Buildings Inc.
> > 
> > Morton IL
> > 
> > (309) 263-6397
> > 
> > 
> >     
> >             
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> 
> Randy Dray
> Systems Programmer
> Morton Buildings Inc.
> 
> Morton IL
> 
> (309) 263-6397
> 
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