Jim (what a great name! :-) this is an excellent idea and one that we have
all tossed around in planning discussions.   A BOF or even SCIDs would be a
reasonable start to at least get the questions addressed and then possibly
put together an outline of something that could help others with the same
issues.   This is one of the many reasons SHARE is successful; you can get
real issues nailed down because all the right people are within arms reach.

We can do this formally (BOF) or informally (SCIDs) or somewhere in between
(Dinner!).   If there are more folks that would like to address "ordering
service for z/VM" questions, then a BOF would probably be a good option.
>>> If others speak up before SHARE <<< I will schedule a BOF and tag some
other folks that could help such as Martha, Mike Walter, and a few choice
IBM'rs that need more work to do like John  Franciscovich.

The good and bad is there is more than one way to approach this topic.
Everyone doing service work will probably have a different spin on how to
do it.  It isn't like the good ol' days where the options were IBMLINK (the
3270 version!) or calling IBM Support - now there are more ways and none
are really intuitive unless you do it often as you noted.  The good news is
that you can still simply call IBM and ask them to order the
latest/greatest RSU for you.  I have not done that in years and would guess
you would end up with physical media as your only option though.

_______________________________________
James Vincent
Systems Engineering Consultant
Nationwide Services Co., Technology Infrastructure Engineering
Mainframe, z/VM and z/Linux Support
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VM/ESA and z/VM Discussions <[email protected]> wrote on 02/17/2006
08:50:27 AM:

> [email protected]
>
> Perhaps a BOF would be an appropriate gathering to answer some questions
> that have been building up for me and, probably, others.  I maintain VM,
> z/VM 4.4, which is as current as our hardware will allow.  VM is so
stable
> that I don't spend half of my time anymore living inside IBMLINK looking
> for a PTF to fix the latest CP abend.  A couple of times a year when I do

> try to apply maintenance and I go to IBMLINK or whatever is the
redirected
> URL de jour, I flounder around trying to figure out how to order the must

> current RSU and COR.  I am certain that the Endicott IBM people have this

> all memorized and it is very logical for them, but for the occasional
> visitor, trying to figure out where to go is a real challenge.
>
> If others have the same kind of questions and could pose them to an
IBM'er
> or two, perhaps a logical, easy to follow roadmap could be put
> together.  I'm not volunteering to lead or host a BOF because I don't
have
> the foggiest idea how to go about that, but I would certainly be
interested
> in, at least. cornering a couple of likely looking IBM'ers or other
experts
> such as Martha Mc. or Jim V. at skids and plying them with the beverage
of
> their choice to coax the secrets out of them.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Bohnsack
> Cornell Univ.
> (607) 255-1760

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