At 9:31 AM -0500 1/29/05, John E. Malmberg wrote:
>Somehow the vmsperl mailing list got into the spamcop.net list.
>
>    (reason: 530 5.7.1 Blocked -
>    see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?63.238.179.181:


This has happened from time to time, but the address you show here is
not the address of lists.develooper.com, the MTA for all the Perl
mailing lists.  63.238.179.181 is for called qsl.net, which is where
you are sending mail from.

In any case, I cannot find any evidence that we are currently
blacklisted by spamcop.  You can see a pretty detailed report on the
domain here:

http://www.senderbase.org/?searchBy=ipaddress&sb=1&searchString=63.251.223.163

It does look like the entire ISP is listed by blackholes.us:

http://openrbl.org/zones/@ISP?63.251.223.163

but I'm not at all sure I know how to read that page.  If this is
causing problems for anyone, please write to the list owner.

>Since this is a closed list, the only possibilities are:
>
>   1. The host had a security problem.
>   (I really do not think that is likely)
>
>   2. One or more subscribers on the mailing list accidentally
>      reported something from the mailing list as spam, and
>      also confirmed that the mail list server was the source
>      of the spam as a second step.

Or some entirely unrelated activities have gotten your ISP listed.

>The second is more likely, so please be careful.  Spamcop rules specifically 
>only allow mailing list administrators to report spam that comes from a 
>mailing list.
>
>Now I do not know how many mailing lists share this server, so the report may 
>not have been from a subscriber to this mailing list.
>
>
>Most of the time the spamcop.net used to figure out that the mailing list was 
>not the source, however spammers found ways to take advantage of that.
>
>So now spamcop.net is phasing over to a mailhost configuration.  If your 
>spamcop.net account has been converted to the mailhost configuration, then if 
>you report a mailing list message as spam, the parser will
>probably stop at the mail server and indicate it as the spam source.
>
>If the one of the mailing list administrators gets a spamcop.net account, and 
>registers the mailing list server as one of their mailhosts, the spamcop.net 
>parser is more likely to treat it as a trusted sender if someone accidentally 
>reports spam in the past.

The last time this happened, the listowner wrote to smamcop, who
immediately cleared the listing and apologized.

>Also, if you are a SpamAssasin user, and not yet on SpamAssasin 3, reports 
>that I seen from the field is that SpamAssasin 3 is far more accurate than the 
>earlier versions if you use the feature that checks the I.P. address of URLs 
>in messages against the DNSbls.

Good to know. 



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